Florida Department of Education rejects AP African American Studies course

Agree with your initial statement at some level, but to deny a black experience in America neglects many of the important social issues that are unique to black Americans. Case in point: The black experience with Police in America.
The Black American Experience: Here Is What We Have Learned

Consider other issues that disproportionately affect African Americans - poverty, unemployment, underrepresentation in high-wage industries, etc.
The Black experience at work in charts | McKinsey

 

Sounds anti-intellectual, bluke

 

No, not only negative outcomes. I think race (by appearance at least) is an important distinction to be made when discussing our country's history. One reason is because we can see how wrong it was and how that leads to and fosters division and ultimately hate. As I've mentioned, I don't believe that it's the way forward, and to the extent that I have the opportunity to not participate in it, I won't. I'll always consider compelling arguments that suggest otherwise, but they frequently seem to be laced with bias for or against people based on what they look like.

There are many situations where people are treated differently before they are seen based on what they put down on an application. So right off the bat, all of those situations become neutralized. I think there's also an aspect of having a label for something lends itself to stereotyping. And, to me, the color of our skin need not be celebrated or hated...both are equally strange to me.

I don't know, but we have the ability to be smarter than that now. It's only a matter of choosing to use the information available to us or not. A change won't happen overnight, but we're not even to the point of agreeing on whether or not there's a better way than by using race labels (beyond what you and I could or could not agree to).

This is definitely the potential weak link in the line of thinking. I think it would be easier to hold judges accountable (for example) by simply seeing what factors (if any) they used to distinguish how heavy-handed the levied punishments. If people have the same factors, but different punishments, people should be asking why. But there is an obvious strength to this line of thinking as well, when we're deciding who to help, we should be looking at socio-economic factors and ability factors, not what a person looks like. Many of the forms of disadvantages that exist that may stem from race-based inequities are still tangible without the use of racial identifiers. I believe this is a more responsible way to determine who needs help than by merely indicating what they look like.

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The weak link clearly seems to be if you fire or refuse to hire or serve a person simply for having black skin, and since race doesn't exist as a legal concept now that we've hypothetically done away with it, that's basically the same as firing someone for any reason at-will employers have at their disposal or refusing service for any arbitrary reason. That would seem to protect racists in positions of power and decision making more than do anything to combat skin color-based discrimination.

 

IB actually had a Latin American history class Senior year for upper level history students when I attended. Good class. Not sure it would be considered legal in Florida today because it both looked at the role of race within those countries and the role of race/ethnicity in how other countries (including the US) treated the region.

 

Beginning with two caveats. First I haven't read the details of the curriculum of the AP African American Studies course and secondly, I haven't read the precise statutory language of what I call the the Florida anti-CRT statute. That being said it seems that any curriculum that portrays African-Americans or for that matter any other racial/ethnic minority as victims of the policy of the US government, state governments or even societal norms of a predominantly white society would fail the DeSantis culture war litmus test.

 

Agreed. That does seem to be the case. With the same two caveats.

 

No, it does not. And you misunderstand how the Establishment Clause works. It's a restriction on government.

Not in colleges we don't.

 

They can't. There's an injunction preventing them from doing that.

 

No reasons there, other than fomenting appeals to racism

 

That is what has been taught for 200+ years.

 

I’m curious where the curriculum topics are because they’re not on the AP website. I don’t trust the Florida DOE.

 

Bull crap. American History includes Europeans, Africans, Polynesians, Latin Americans, Middle Easterners, Native Americans & Orientals to mention a few. There is no such subject in public schools covering simply European Americans.

 

Maybe I am, I genuinely am not sure. Why is instruction regarding religious texts unconstitutional in public schools? What is the relationship between the instructor and the government? Wouldn't they be acting as an agent of the government? That's my understanding of it.

And I'm absolutely against it at the college level. Will it stop me from voting for DeSantis? No. But that's definitely a step too far for me.

 

If only your liberal leader was in charge…then you would trust and follow lol!

 

I assume this is it.

Pilot – African American Studies