Flashback: Biden lost temper with Zelenskyy

This is the part I can’t figure out as well.

 

Honestly, I don’t know. I can only think he though Vance would respond in good faith. I agree it was a serious misstep (since diplomacy is ultimately about outcomes). If I was Zelenskyy I wouldn’t have even talked to Vance.

 

US troops cannot be obligated because we are a nuclear superpower and can't afford to engage Russia directly because we are the NATO nuclear deterrence provider which would mean nuclear escalation in the worst case.

Of course we need to back whoever takes on the security guarantees - which Putin will never accept unless he is forced to due to circumstances on the ground.

 

It was an ambush. Trump is 100% on Putin's side now and wanted to humiliate Zelensky.

 

Indeed.

 

Do we? Prove it.

 

Zelenskyy didn’t suspend the elections, it’s literally written into their constitution. He was democratically elected and you even pulled up the article that the parliament just affirmed no elections. Frankly, ignoring all your prior BS this is all the evidence needed to show you are not participating in good faith.

 

Logic and common sense isn’t going to work on them.

 

Quite literally every U.S. president who has ever held office would have been offended if Zelenskyy took that tact with them.

 

Why don’t you try it and see instead of the folly we usually get.

 

Literally no president has ever demanded public groveling either so it’s doubtful any other president would have been in that position.