Fifth circuit gonna fifth circuit (Texas free speech decision)

It's HIPAA.

 

Guess that means they're willing to admit Truth Social was a dud.

 

That's part of the joke.

 

FedSoc "judges" believing that corporations have a First Amendment right to discriminate against gays but not a First Amendment right to boot Nazis off their platform perfectly incapsulates why I am firmly behind packing the courts.

 

They also have a first amendment right to spend unlimited sums on political campaigns. And to deny access to health care based in freedom of religion.

 

Wait, what? How did you go from opposing political views, that should be equal to both sides, to "advocating violence" in their ruling?

That's quite the leap there...

 

Or you could be like zuckerberg and just report every one you disagree with to the feds...honestly, anyone that uses these garbage platforms has rocks in their heads.
Facebook spied on private messages of Americans who questioned 2020 election

 

“There was nothing criminal, nothing about violence or massacring or assassinating anyone”

Im gonna call bs on this lady’s sources. I saw this rhetoric on public forums with my own eyes, I can’t even fathom how much noise there was in “private” chats, and I doubt the FBI even has time or resources to investigate all the crap that it probably should look into. The idea they were being fed a bunch of NON violent rhetoric and wasted their time seems like horseshit. I don’t doubt Facebook collects user data and may even volunteer some to the feds. When you sign up for Facebook (or any forum) you basically sign away the ownership of that content when you agree to the terms of the EULA.

Just the way this was written kind of rubs me the wrong way. It comes off to me like she wrote a narrative story and then supplied quotes. Is her “source” citing to her what the 1st and 2nd amendment mean? Why is that quoted? Seems kinda odd to see a DOJ official going to bat for a militia group. That language in particular struck me as highly unlikely. I also see this woman has crossed paths with disgraced former journalist John Solomon, so that also has me questioning whether she even has a source at all (that and her generally slanted headlines).

 

Ever the originalist, Alito may be pushing in the absurd direction that there was no such thing as Internet boards and forums where the First Amendment was passed. So this is a novel issue: can a forum for views refuse to allow the expression of views that its owners disagree with or that may be flat false? There is nothing novel about this issue. Calling the issue novel is intellectually dishonest. The court has long held, in many contexts, that nobody can be compelled to speak that they don’t want to say. Many cases on that issue. The platform makes no differences once you go down the path of saying that an entity must speak in a certain way or is required to allow speakers to say what they disagree with, then you start limiting freedom of thought and speech.

 

I heard a bit on NPR on this. Without censorship on message boards they quickly debauch to hate speech, racism, pornography, misogyny, vile posts, etc. And that’s not the worst of it. At that point anyone who doesn’t want to see that won’t post or even visit the website. Check out what happened to 8kun or 8Chan.
(thank you thfsg mods)

 

Related regarding the Right’s vision, imposed by judicial order, of the virtues of robust free speech in the the unmoderated internet where their voices are not silenced

A report issued last month by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a British nonprofit, declared that harassment against women is flourishing on YouTube. Though the platform recently banned the online men’s rights influencer Andrew Tate (after he amassed millions in ad revenue), other channels espousing similar ideology are posting regularly and using the platform to grow their audience, the report concluded. Some channels also are still uploading Tate’s content to YouTube shorts, YouTube’s answer to TikTok.

“Misogyny is alive and well on YouTube,” the center’s report found. “Videos pushing misinformation, hate and outright conspiracies targeting women are often monetized.”


But in interviews with The Post, creators detailed how misogynistic creators mobilize their audiences to attack certain women creators. If a female creator goes viral, they said, she will undoubtedly be subject to a waterfall of hateful comments. Posting on YouTube as a female creator can feel like walking across a minefield, the influencers told The Post.

“YouTube will turn a blind eye to anything that brings a lot of viewers to the platform,” said Abelina Sabrina Rios, a political comedy YouTuber in Los Angeles. “They’re aware that people on their platform will blatantly spew sexist and misogynistic stuff and it becomes a breeding ground and they’re totally OK with it because they bring in lots of viewers.”


YouTube still rife with misogyny, harassment, creators say - Tampa Bay Times

This piece, to me, is specific to YouTube and understates the likely result. Rather than promoting more robust exchanges of ideas, the unmoderated Internet will allow targeted harassment, doxxing, and physical threats that will silence vulnerable voices. Those are the tactic(s) that the loudest complainers hate has been deprived from them, at least in part

 

Isn't the work around to simply not express why you are removing a message? I think people need to be careful what they ask for.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

Just don't violate my Hippo rights.

 

Reddit is an amazing social experiment. The level of moderation varies wildly by subreddit. And the less moderated subreddits always debauch to hate speech, racism, pornography, misogyny, vile posts, etc. Always.

A while back the major subreddit for world politics got taken over by a mod who got tired of all the bickering about the level of moderation and threw open the doors. Declared the only moderation would be of posts violating reddit's sitewide rules. That keeps out the hate speech and racism, but all the rest is given free reign. There is no more discussion of world politics in r/worldpolitics.

 

It's not like we lack non internet models