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Feeling crowded yet? The US Census Bureau estimates the world’s population has passed 8 billion

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by mrhansduck, Nov 10, 2023.

  1. mrhansduck

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    Globally speaking, how many people is too many given limited resources?

    We've got some folks concerned about overpopulation and others concerned about lowering fertility rates (at least in certain places). There are social, environmental, and other factors, to include the economics of needing younger workers and taxpayers. Curious how people here feel about the population status and discussion generally.

    Feeling crowded yet? The US Census Bureau estimates the world's population has passed 8 billion

    While world population growth remains brisk, growing from 6 billion to 8 billion since the turn of the millennium, the rate has slowed since doubling between 1960 and 2000.


    People living to older ages account for much of the recent increase. The global median age, now 32, has been rising in a trend expected to continue toward 39 in 2060.

    Countries such as Canada have been aging with declining older-age mortality, while countries such as Nigeria have seen dramatic declines in deaths of children under 5.

    Fertility rates, or the rate of births per woman of childbearing age, are meanwhile declining, falling below replacement level in much of the world and contributing to a more than 50-year trend, on average, of slimmer increases in population growth.
     
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  2. WarDamnGator

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    Just think if ever perfect these “live forever” or age reversing medicines they are working on … so many bad side effects for something that sounds great on paper.
     
  3. mrhansduck

    mrhansduck GC Hall of Fame

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    We'll be down to this maybe:

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  4. Gatorhead

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    Peter Zahan and labor troll Elon Musk are "full of it" IMO.

    6 to 8 billion in 23 years?

    And Republican wonder why prices are up, supplies are down and the complex world supply chain is under stress, all while one of the largest grain producing countries in the world is under invasion.

    And of course the Catholics are for no birth control and 10 baby families.

    Trump will solve it though, he with his altruistic policies when he becomes president in Jan. 25, just "deregulate" everything.
     
  5. 92gator

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    Not enough abortions...

    Too many people...

    Planet's dying...

    'bout time we put those nukes to use.

    /s/ the compassionate Left. :devil:
     
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  6. tilly

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    The earth isn't too crowded. It's just too small a percentage hoard all the money and that makes much of the earths populous struggle. There is enough wealth and means on the planet to support 8B people.
     
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  7. l_boy

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    Mods please help AOC has hacked Tilly’s account.
     
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  8. l_boy

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    At one level this is true, we produce enough food to feed the planet, but at another level the earth could not support 8 billion people that lived a similar standard of living that we do.
     
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  9. l_boy

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    Opinion | All of the Predictions Agree on One Thing: Humanity Peaks Soon

    The population is expected to peak around 2080 at 10 billion and then level off and eventually decline. Most first world countries plus China havr below zero population growth, and the population growth of India is declining fast then we are generally left with Africa increasing and everybody else decreasing.
     
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  10. 92gator

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    Hoarding? It's what gives money It's value, by the ppl who make money valuable.

    The same fallacious thinking has undergirded communist thought since Karl Marx took his first shroom trip.

    Take all the money on the planet and divide it equally per capita amongst every person...

    Everyone would have the same amount of money, but it's value would be worth less than the paper it's written on.

    And production of goods needed to sustain 8 bil would drop off precipitously...

    Basically feasting on the goose that lays the golden eggs. No more eggs.

    TBL: Saving and investing profits
    =/= hoarding.
     
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  11. Trickster

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    The people who make and hoard money are the cause of much suffering in the world. One can be a capitalist and still see the need for a fairer distribution of wealth. That view makes one a Christian, not a Communist, a term you toss around with some frequency. The recent success of labor unions, which are thankfully resurgent, is proof of that.
     
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    Pretty soon we're not going to be able to keep 6 feet away (3 in schools)...
     
  13. tilly

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    Agree. But healthy food and happiness can be achieved outside of our gated communities.
     
  14. tilly

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    I LOL'd, but I'm serious. This is one of my RINO positions I guess. At some point being a conservative became synonymous with wanting "mine" and thinking "they" should work harder to be like me.

    Jesus said the poor will "always be among us". He then was very clear about what we should do about them. America is failing at this in many ways... And sadly "conservative" America is crapping the bed.
     
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  15. tilly

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    That "fallacious idea" came from Jesus.

    I never suggested the government should be a part of this.

    I am saying the richest have the means to wipe out hunger in many areas. PRIVATELY. They should do it out of decency and love for their fellow man.

    Many are not.

    And the middle class/upper middle class that most of us sit comfortably 8n could probably wipe it out.

    Do i need the 70k F150 to replace the 20013 one? (I get there is economics involved that make this a bit of an oversimplification...but the point still remains.)

    You can completely change a childs life (nutrition wise) for $30 bucks a month. I know. I do it for multiple and worked hand in hand with the org doing it for several years. Billionaires could be helping millions by investing in such projects. Throwing capital at it and investing in the business of helping.

    The ROI may not be what you get for a block in Manhattan, but you would leave the earth with much more than a real estate portfolio fir properties full of more rich people.
     
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  16. GatorFanCF

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    Where capitalism goes generally education improves, and the birth rate drops.

    Once capitalism and education, especially for women, floods Africa the likelihood we continue to grow much beyond 8 billion is small.
     
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  17. BLING

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    I like how you guys think the only choices are laissez-faire capitalism or a communist government dividing everything “equally” (not even as if commie govt’s do that anyway).

    But I guess it’s simpler if everything is boiled down to binary extremes.
     
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  18. Orange_and_Bluke

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    How very libbie of you Tilly.
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  19. tilly

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    Nope.
    Libbies want the government to force it from you to someone else.

    I want humans to do it on their own for the love of humanity.
     
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  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    I’d bet there will be fewer humans on the earth 200 years from now than there are now.