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FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duchen, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. channingcrowderhungry

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    While I've seen people it's a plant. I haven't seen one person say WHY it would be a plant.

    The Dems would love Trump to run again, they wouldn't orchestrate a plant.
     
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  2. PITBOSS

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    “The FBI sought to locate classified documents related to nuclear weapons,”

    So if trump had documents laying around with nuclear secrets - obviously fbi had to do something.


    btw just imagine if Obama had stolen docs on nuclear weapons in his home office.
    Just imagine how trump followers would react. Party before country. Or it’s now Dear Leader before everything.
     
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  3. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    How would a USSS agent know what was in the boxes?
     
  4. gatorchamps960608

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    Take your pick:

    1. Selling them to Saudi Arabia.
    2. Handing them over to Putin as requested.

    If either are true, he needs to be summarily executed under the penalty of the Espionage Act.
     
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  5. pkaib01

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    You might finally be right!

     
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  6. gatorjnyc

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    WHY would he say it's a plant? Bc of the grand witch hunt. Fits the narrative perfectly. The Deep State establishment or whatever, doesn't want him to run... the impeachments, the tax fraud inquiries, the rape allegations, etc... it's all a part of the grand scheme to not have him anywhere near DC. Bet your bottom dollar this claim is coming, bc he is boxed in and saying it's a plant is the only move he has.
     
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  7. gatorjnyc

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    Meanwhile, Hannity is talking with Devin Nunes about Hunter Biden nonsense. Unreal.
     
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  8. slocala

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    Asking if you know… How specific can the DOJ / FBI be with the inventory? Is it possible the DOJ put a kitchen sink list on the warrant and came back with nothing on the inventory that is redacted and designated top secret? Also, is it clear if Trump declassified it before, so therefore these items in the inventory are for all to see?
     
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  9. ursidman

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    Had almost forgotten about Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.
     
  10. mdgator05

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  11. slocala

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    No idea. Maybe Donny is a narcissist bragged out loud about how Kim wrote him a love letter admitting NK’s entire nuclear program was a farce. Your guess is as good mine.
     
  12. ursidman

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    There were concerns wrt to trump, nuclear information, and the Saudis in 2019. Whistleblower. This is a congressional report - hope the 4 paragraph limit won't apply.

    https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump Saudi Nuclear Report - 2-19-2019.pdf

    Executive Summary
    The Trump Administration’s interactions with Saudi Arabia have been shrouded in secrecy, raising significant questions about the nature of the relationship.

    In 2017, President Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, orchestrated a visit to Saudi Arabia as the President’s first overseas trip. Mr. Kushner also met on his own with then-Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who subsequently ousted his cousin, Mohammed bin Nayef, launched a crackdown against dozens of Saudi royal family members, and reportedly bragged that Mr. Kushner was “in his pocket.”

    In October 2018, the brutal murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi was met with equivocation by President Trump and other top Administration officials. This month, the White House ignored a 120-day deadline for a report on Mr. Khashoggi’s killing requested on a bipartisan basis by the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations.

    Within the United States, strong private commercial interests have been pressing aggressively for the transfer of highly sensitive nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia—a potential risk to U.S. national security absent adequate safeguards. These commercial entities stand to reap billions of dollars through contracts associated with constructing and operating nuclear facilities in Saudi Arabia—and apparently have been in close and repeated contact with President Trump and his Administration to the present day.

    However, experts worry that transferring sensitive U.S. nuclear technology could allow Saudi Arabia to produce nuclear weapons that contribute to the proliferation of nuclear arms throughout an already unstable Middle East. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman conceded this point in 2018, proclaiming: “Without a doubt, if Iran developed a nuclear bomb, we will follow suit as soon as possible.”

    When Congress passed the Atomic Energy Act, it imposed stringent controls on the export of U.S. technology to a foreign country that could be used to create nuclear weapons. Under Section 123 of the Act, the U.S. may not transfer nuclear technology to a foreign country without the approval of Congress, in order to ensure that the agreement reached with the foreign government meets nine specific nonproliferation requirements.

    The whistleblowers who came forward have expressed significant concerns about the potential procedural and legal violations connected with rushing through a plan to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia. They have warned of conflicts of interest among top White House advisers that could implicate federal criminal statutes. They have also warned about a working environment inside the White House marked by chaos, dysfunction, and backbiting.
     
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  13. duchen

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    If classified documents, It would be a general list. Internal FBI reports would describe the documents with greater specificity. It will not matter if Trump declassified except as to what might be charged criminally. Nuclear secrets are nuclear secrets. I am not sure about the declassification process for those documents; they may require more than a presidential declassification. Just heard that the president cannot declassify by executive order. The Department if Energy also has to sign off
     
  14. DoubleDown11

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    Make America Great Again?
     
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  15. duchen

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    64,000 question: why did he have this information and what was he going to do with it?
     
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  16. PITBOSS

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    Better chance now trump will announce his 24 candidacy before yr end.
     
  17. ursidman

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    One wonders if it is somehow related to this early attempt to sell SA nuclear information in the 1st week of the trump Administration. I have no idea but it is damn curious and I ask again, why did Jared get $2bn from SA in the last weeks of the trump administration? Cover story was jared was starting a hedge fund, an undertaking for which he had no experience but MBS "invested" anyway. Since then MBS has paid who knows how much to trump for a golf tournament on his properties. Very curious. From the 2019 Congressional Report

    Summary of Whistleblower Concerns

    According to the whistleblowers, Derek Harvey, the Senior Director for Middle East and North African Affairs at the National Security Council (NSC) from January to July 2017, stated during the first week of the Trump Administration that the decision to adopt IP3’s nuclear plan, which it called the Middle East Marshall Plan, and develop “dozens of nuclear power plants” had already been made by General Flynn during the transition—while he was serving as an advisor to IP3.

    Career staff warned that any transfer of nuclear technology must comply with the Atomic Energy Act, that the United States and Saudi Arabia would need to reach a 123 Agreement, and that these legal requirements could not be circumvented. Mr. Harvey reportedly ignored these warnings and insisted that the decision to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia had already been made.

    Both career and political staff inside the White House reportedly agreed that Mr. Harvey’s directive could violate the law. One senior political official stated that the proposal was “not a business plan,” but rather “a scheme for these generals to make some money.” That official stated: “Okay, you know we cannot do this.”

    Yet, just days after the President’s inauguration, IP3 officials sent documents directly to General Flynn for President Trump to approve, including a draft Cabinet Memo stating that the President had appointed Mr. Barrack as a special representative to implement the plan and directing agencies to support Mr. Barrack’s efforts.

    According to the whistleblowers, the NSC Ethics Counsel and several attorneys in the NSC Legal Advisor’s office agreed that General Flynn had a potential conflict of interest that could violate the criminal conflict of interest statute, 18 U.S.C. § 208. As a result, NSC Legal Advisor John Eisenberg instructed NSC staff to cease all work on the plan.
     
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  18. StrangeGator

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    Usually see chatter in my FB feed, mostly people from back home. Was going nuts all week. Nothing since this morning.
     
  19. pkaib01

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    I also believe there is more to declassifying docs than a hand wave on the way out the door. If trump declassified specific docs prior to departing, there would be a paper trail that the DOJ is privy to and recovery would not be a priority. Otherwise, he's screwed.
     
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  20. duchen

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    WAPO also reported he had signals intelligence
     
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