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FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duchen, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. duchen

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    The Patel news is indicative of the investigation coming to an end. And there is no colorable claim of executive privilege for statements made after Trump left office. The FBI likely already knows from documents and other evidence the information Patel has, but wants his testimony for the grand jury. With Jordan’s letter that the new House is going to demand all of the DOJ information surrounding the warrant, the pressure is there to make the charging decision before January. It is evident that the GOP controlled House Intel committee will obtain DOJ materials to feed to Trumps real like it did in the Russia investigation. Once an indictment issued, the court has greater control over evidence in an open case. If there is one.
     
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  2. sierragator

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    So in effect, his defense team will include the US House of Representatives. Just the way the founders intended. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. tampagtr

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    So the emails released yesterday have some new revelations, none of which should be found surprising. Many people are focusing on the fact that he spending crew accurately saw Justice Thomas as the most unprincipled hack on the court. I say that because they were saying they thought he was their best shot at the same time they were a acknowledging they had no valid legal case.

    Thomas is certainly a hack, but they are stiff competition on this court as to who is the most unprincipled purely political actor in a robe.

    In an email from Chesebro to Eastman and several others sent on Dec. 31, 2020, Chesebro argued that Thomas would “end up being key” to asking the high court to overturn then-President-elect Joe Biden’s win in contested states, and that they should “frame things so that Thomas could be the one to issue some sort of stay or other circuit justice opinion saying Georgia is in legitimate doubt.”

    Realistically, our only chance to get a favorable judicial opinion by Jan. 6, which might hold up the Georgia count in Congress, is from Thomas — do you agree, Prof. Eastman?”



    But what I also found interesting is the profound sense of victimization which infects the modern right wing, the perception that any ordinary consequences to egregious actions is somehow unfair to them, as evidenced by Eastman here talking about the fact that it would require some aggressive DA to prosecute Trump for very knowingly lying under oath to try to subvert democracy and overturn election. Such unfairness.

    In another Dec. 31, 2020, email, Eastman expresses concerns about legal issues Trump might face in signing a new verification for a lawsuit that had already been filed regarding voter fraud, given that he has “since been made aware that some of the allegations (and evidence proffered by the experts) has been inaccurate.

    “And I have no doubt that an aggressive DA or US (Attorney) someplace will go after both the President and his lawyers once all the dust settles on this,” Eastman wrote to Alex Kaufman and Kurt Hilbert, two Georgia-based lawyers who were working on Trump’s legal challenges to the election.



    By the way, Trump did sign under oath a verification of facts he knew were false.



    Emails: Trump lawyers saw Thomas as key to halt electoral count
    Emails: Trump lawyers saw Thomas as key to halt electoral count - Tampa Bay Times

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  4. G8trGr8t

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    Do you think that maybe Patel was the inside source all along?
     
  5. duchen

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  6. rtgator

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    Trump Mar-a-Lago special master review overturned, appeals court rules

    Appeals court overturns special master review of records found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago

    The ruling clears the way for federal investigators to use the records in its investigation of Trump's unauthorized transfer of classified documents to his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida.
     
  7. sierragator

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    So the special master circus bought him a couple of months, and now back to your regular criminal investigation.
     
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  11. Norcaligator

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    Great opening:
    “This appeal requires us to consider whether the district court had jurisdiction to block the United States from using lawfully seized records in a criminal investigation. The answer is no.”
     
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  12. duchen

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    The better line is where they indicates that they are not creating a special rule for a former president. That just slams the trial court. In legal parlance, this opinion basically says that the District Court ignored the law. Remember when the master asked for briefing on this, the District Court overruled the master. And then they go into the long standing rule that tue trial judge cited and ignored. This was easy. I said day 1 that there was no jurisdiction for the district court’s order and that the remedy was a Rule 41 motion for return of property. And, Trump could have secured a special master with proper arguments to the court that issued the warrant— just like in the Michael Cohen case. So i throw this out— the District Court cited and refuse to apply the long-standing binding precedent. Why? What do you think the motivation was? Meanwhile, Trump did get what he wanted. Delay until the House goes GOP so that the new GOP controlled judiciary committee can subpoena every record from DOJ concerning this investigation and then show what they get to Trump’s team.
     
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  13. ajoseph

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    You know the answers to each of your questions. The hand-picked judge was repaying a debt to the guy who gave her the job. Period. There will be no repercussions, her cronyism will be forgotten in a few years, except that she will forever be a hero to the MAGA cult.
     
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  14. duchen

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    And maybe move up the federal judicial ladder
     
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  15. jeffbrig

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    Blistering...

     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Just checking in. This fell apart weeks ago, right ?
     
  18. mdgator05

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    Nope. Sorry.
     
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  19. philnotfil

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    No, but several far-right outlets did publish stories with headlines that made it sound like it all fell apart. Those who looked past the headline would find that what fell apart was the speculation that Trump was trying to sell nuclear secrets. There was no evidence found that he was trying to sell nuclear secrets. But the headlines were written to mislead those who didn't want to know the truth.
     
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  20. Gator515151

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    Sounds more to me like he may have hired a team of lawyers to look over documents that somebody else could claim are classified. If he knew he had classified information he wouldn't have to search for it. Think of it as sort of a hunt before the witch hunt.