even democrats oppose troops to the border

So are you complaining about sending troops to the border or complaining about complaining about sending troops to the border?

 

Isn’t Biden the “top dem”?

 

FAKE NEWS ALERT. OP says democrats(plural) but the article is about one dude.

Secondly this is the explanation: “We have been preparing for this transition for more than a year and a half. Notwithstanding those preparations, we do expect that encounters at our southern border will [be] increasing, as smugglers are seeking to take advantage of this change and already are hard at work spreading disinformation that the border will be open after that,” he told reporters. “High encounters will place a strain on our entire system, including our dedicated and heroic workforce and our communities.”

Biden admin to set up migrant processing centers in Latin America ahead of end of Title 42

 

Wherever there are scary brown people lurking, the US military will be there to rough them up, its what they do

 

This is another bad decision in a list of bad decisions made because neither Congress, nor past President's have attempted to make meaningful policy regarding our borders. This is on the federal government, both Parties.

 

The USA has been making very "meaningful" policy for a very long time, before many of us were born. I would say our border policy has amounted to at least a decades long war effort on par with Afghanistan and other war efforts in terms of its cost, scope and boots on the ground commitments. People that say its a problem being ignored are not particularly serious, its mostly that its out of sight for most people. Also considering its unclear what people want exactly when it comes to policy outcomes, I can see why that might cause people to think that way too.

 

First off, the issues we are dealing with today are not nearly the same as the issues we had to deal with years before we were born, so that "meaningful" policy isn't fully applicable to today's issues. True border policy, that is what steps are taken to allow physical entrance into the country, has been talked about a lot with very little to show for it. That's a fact. Neither party has been willing to sit down and discuss valid policy that can be truly enforced. Talking about an issue and creating real-life solutions are two different things.

 

The issue is people coming across the border to find work in America, always has been. We want the labor (it is primarily agricultural), but we dont want them to stay for various reasons, which are mostly racist and/or owing to our ideas of our cultural superiority/purity. Perhaps the nations of origin are different now vs. majority Mexican in the 20th century. Its true that in more recent decades, its become more militarized, but we definitely used the military in years past, including incursions into their territory and military occupation. The other thing is that border policy hasnt been particularly partisan until very recently, so I think politics has played a role in making people think its something new or different from the past too. Its especially true in creating the false impression that the debate is between "open borders" vs. border security, which is an insult to our intelligence, but some people seem to eat it up.

 

It’s apparently a MAGA crime organization that has endorsed Trump twice and has a long history of shady activities and criminal convictions.

Former Official of Border Patrol Union Convicted of Theft and Fraud | San Jose Inside

The FBI Is Investigating Massive Embezzlement of Border Patrol Union Funds — ProPublica

AFGE Boss Dawn Munoz Indicted on Four Counts of Crimes | National Institute of Labor Relations Research

https://www.fedsmith.com/2012/08/21/former-afge-border-patrol-council-president/

 

So correct me if I’m wrong. The American Dream is still alive but it’s in people running across deserts, swimming rivers, and climbing fences to get into this country looking for a better life. And the reason some say so many illegals have been captured is because we have open borders and nothing is being done?

 

I also was perplexed by the inconsistency in the thought process here. Do they want open or controlled borders?

 

I’d love to hear you explain the legal process.

 

He doesn't know. He's just desperately trying to start his first thread where the positive ratings outnumber the negative ones.

 

Lol... you're lowest common denominator style of arguing is logical fallacy, strawman logic.

Is about sovereignty, and LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS.

 

Welp,
The border has been a shat show for 50 years. Border policies, hold my beer

 

Can someone help me understand how these 2 posts can both be true?