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Elon Musk: Trump must be elected in 2024 to Save our Democracy

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by vegasfox, Sep 29, 2024.

  1. 92gator

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    ....and it only cost us 7.9 Trillion dollars of brand new debt!

    (without even the covid excuse for socialism!)

    It's called suicide by any other name.

    #chicompuppetparty!
     
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  2. 92gator

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    Though I think you may have meant he's not a useFUL progressive.

    The progs prolly figure him to be mostly useless, though sadly, they've gotten some use out of him.
     
  3. AndyGator

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    Trump and Vance are dumb and dumber running for president. Who gives a damn about Elon Musks self-serving gas lighting.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Donald Trump: $6.7 trillion in debt added.
    Joe Biden: $4.7 trillion

    Your reaction: make up numbers so that you don't have to admit that you are voting for the candidate with a higher amount of debt added when he was President.

    U.S. Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage
     
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  5. 92gator

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    You can't get dumberer than Doh! Biden and sKamala.

    Then again, I guess you can--to wit: sKamala and aWolz.
     
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  6. PITBOSS

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    Isn't that the truth. Elon is a internet troll that posts silly pro trump memes and propaganda.
     
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  7. WestCoastGator

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    92 ignores this reality like a typical con.
     
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  8. CHFG8R

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    Except, if you're not a retard, you know that they're just as getable for conservatives. . . You know, if you lose the racist shit. Really, the only thing keeping our Spanish/Native American descended, Spanish (Latin-based European romance language) speaking, Christian neighbors from being overwhelmingly conservative is conservative racism. Hell, Rubio tried to tell you fools this 20 years ago. You were too dumb to get it then and my guess is you too dumb to get it now.
     
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    Yes. It's absolutely hilarious that you care about this, let alone being obsessed with it. Oh God! I can't wait for "the revolution". And the crackdown. Oh, that beautiful crackdown. . . .
     
  10. BobK89

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    A complete load of horses--t from Leon.
     
  11. CHFG8R

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    What's to make believe. You are right here. Please be like Alexander the Great when your revolution starts.
     
  12. VAg8r1

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    If you don't think Trump wants to destroy democracy I suggest that you read Trump's proposals as well as Project 2025 (a summary would probably be sufficient since it's well over a hundred pages in length) and despite Trump's claim that he knows nothing about it, it includes several of his proposals including some he tried to implement when he was in office, it's a product of the Heritage Foundation, an organization with which Trump is closely associated, a number of its proposal reflect the Republican National platform and several of its authors are closely associated with Trump.
     
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  13. citygator

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    I guess I dont need to see what the polls say today. The right-wing panic porn is a good enough indication. You guys crack me up. Hunter Biden, Deep State.
     
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    If you buy into his end-of-world fear porn, which has become his only message, then that’s on you. I’d hope you’d look to objective evidence to see things aren’t close to being as bad Trump cries — our inflation, which is coming under control and dropping, is better than most of the world, we are moving steadily to a rebound economy, our stock market has performed better in 4 years than any 4 year period I can recall. Likewise, I’d hope you’d actually ask—what is it that Trump could actually do that would make things better? Because all I’ve heard is that “hiring” him is the only thing that will save the universe, because … well, he says so. He just panders to his audience by nebulously referencing platitudes.

    Obviously, nobody is going to sway your proclivity to vote Republican. But that doesn’t mean you need to buy into the drivel that Trump—a guy that literally lied to you about election results for 4 years—is the only possible means to save democracy. That is laughable, nonsensical, demonstrably false, hot-steaming garbage.
     
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    When you use a word like :retard" you open yourself up to the accusation that your engaged in :confession by projection." I'm won't say that's what you're doing...

    First, what's the ethnic breakdown of the people being pipelines into the US by Democrats who want to increase our legal population to 500 million and beyond? Not good for our environment but Dems don"t care, they"te the enemy of clrsn water and sustainability.

    Huge numbers of South Asians and Africans are coming in as the South Asian and African.populations are still expanding at a good clip compared to everywhere else


    What is the criminal history of the people coming in and getting on our welfare system?

    Are the people coming in smart? Will they make our economy stronger or weaker?

    Identity politics are what Dems are all about, with white males being the #1 enemy.

    What makes you think other groups can maintain what we call Western civilization?

    Because Dems believe in identity politics, they thought Kamala was a good pick. She actually turns off substantial numbers of young black men who don't like bossy "black" women (Kamala is 25% black).

    Trump knows it's more about economic classes being disenfranchised by the upper classes (the credentialed professional managerial class).

    Trump's populist message appeals to the blue collar working class. Younger voters see Trump and RFK Jr as cool and they're defecting to the "unity" party.

    Populist ideas are popular. Trump wants Peace abroad and Prosperity at home. Kamala is associated with War abroad and Poverty at home.

    Controlling our borders is also popular.

    This election was decided a year ago. Nothing's changed. Trump h has been in the lead for over 300 straight days


    Electoral College
    Trump 312-319
    Harris 219-226
     
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  16. vegasfox

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    If you look at long term debt I'd bet Biden wins by a landslide. Democrats wouldn't let Trump build the wall. Democrats want to put tens of millions on our welfare system and then add another 100 million through chain migration. Every poorly educated new citizen added to our population will cost our gov't on average $800 000 over their lifetime. That's $800 Billion for every 1,000,000 poorly educated immigrants added to our population.

    We need to protect our natural resources. That means getting our population below 300 million over time for long term. Dem posters are focused on short term population goals that lead to catastrophic failure long term
     
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    Is California better off after letting in millions of immigrants? Imagine that people weren't allowed to leave Cali. Has the huge influx of immigrants been good for the environment? Did they make Californian high school graduates smarter on average? What's been the effect on the aquifers?
     
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    What a bunch of bull crap. We have 1 million undocumented immigrants working in agriculture, a $100 billion industry, alone. An additional 1 million working in construction, 1 million in food services (restaurants and cafeterias), and 5 million spread out over other industries. What would happen if they were all magically deported tomorrow? Think we could find replacements at the same wages? Or, would we have to pay more and struggle to find 8 million to replace these immigrants?

    The research also shows immigrants, because they do the jobs most citizens are unwilling to do, especially at lower wages, are a net gain on the economy. And those that do bring family over, especially school aged kids? Those kids go on to graduate high school, if not higher, and become a large net positive. It was estimated by the CATO Institute that if Trump, during his firs term, ended DACA and deported them, it would mean a loss of $2.8 billion in tax revenues over the next decade. And billions more the following decades.

    Your estimates of 500 million persons here is also bunk. First, not every immigrants wants to bring family over. Many come and stay only part time before returning home, which is why the undocumented population isn't ballooning. It's pure fantast to believe 100% of undocumented will stay, and everyone will eventually bring families with them.
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    I can see why you think of yourself as a math person. Apparently, $800,000 = $800,000,000,000. That is some high quality math. And that is before you figure out if a person is a "citizen" or an "illegal."