Electric Vehicle sales exceeding expectations

Yes, why are you only talking about the model with the highest estimate and ignoring the model that is the actual subject of the article?

 

Well, I am at least admitting that I am looking at the worst case where you are only looking at the best case. I think I said earlier that reality is somewhere in the middle.

 

No, I commented on both models. You stated that reality was somewhere in the middle of the latest version of the worst model and the previous version of the worst model. You are addressing the other models at all.

 

I don't get it. I actually mention the 14,000 miles in one of my posts. And I believe stated that if the breakeven is between 14,000 miles and 93,000 miles so 1- 8 years with the most plausible be somewhere in between that. I don't understand what you are trying to argue? I fully admitted I did not know. I took the research you provided and stated what I did. I am just way more skeptical on the benefit and timing than you are so naturally I will lean towards worst case. I don't have my stuck in the sand and saying at some point you should reach net negative. You will not convince me to think like you. I respected what you provided and gave a take that is different than yours. I didn't say you were wrong and I'm right. Just pointing out we do not know when this EV switch will really benefit climate change and moving to it to rapidly will cause a lot of pain and suffering because we can't produce and store enough energy today.

 

That is absolutely not what you said in post 24. Here is your post:

Nothing in there about 1 year. Just the updated version of the model and the previous version of the same model and your desire to average those two versions of the same model (the most pessimistic one) while ignoring the other model.

And yes, we do know that it will help climate change, especially in areas that don't generate power exclusively from coal. Even the model at 3 years shows that.

 

OK you WIN!!!!

 

Tesla slashing prices get 5 for cost of 4

 

The substantial Wyoming motor vehicle market will sustain ICEs.

 

Not pure EV (Hybrid), but a new Vette is being sold for better performance and all wheel drive. This may alter culture war implications


The E-Ray is a gas-electric hybrid, the first all-wheel-drive version of Chevrolet’s storied sports car, with the front wheels running on an electric motor and the traditional 6.2-liter V8 powering the back.

Aimed at affluent buyers who want new technology in the top-line Chevrolet sports car, the $104,000 E-Ray jerks your head back as it goes from zero to 60 mph in 2.5 seconds. General Motors says it can cover a quarter-mile in 10.5 seconds.




Hybrid ’Vette fastest ever
Hybrid ’Vette fastest ever - Tampa Bay Times

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Seems to me the whole impetus for EVs is this: Consolidate pollution into the hands of the producers, rather than the consumers.

 

The Wyoming state legislator who wrote the bill said that he wasn't really trying to be serious but was symbolically responding to California's apparent goal of phasing out vehicles with internal combustion engines in favor of EVs.

 

That thought occurred to me, which is why I worded my original post in terms of the Wyoming market. The biggest states move the market due to size. A California mandate will cause manufacturers to adjust, just like Texas with school books. So California mandates are by definition serious; Wyoming mandates are not. Wyoming officials occasionally complain, but they already exercise disproportionate influence on national policy due to the structure of the Senate and the Electoral College. They have no basis to complain that their voice is not heard

 

LOL, you guys realize ev's are for rich people, right?

 

You mean like the Nissan Leaf?

https://www.kbb.com/nissan/leaf/
By the way there a number of other EVs under $40,000.
Comparing All Electric Cars Priced Under $40,000 | MYEV.com
For a little context. The graph below is the average price of new car sold in the US (as of Oct. 2022).

 

well, at least used parts availability will be better.

Teslas are so expensive to repair, insurers are writing them off - Autoblog

All the Model Ys in the Reuters analysis were 2022 or 2023 models, and were built at either the Fremont plant in Northern California or the Austin, Texas, plant.

Of the 15 Model Y Long Range vehicles built in Austin from June through November and sent to auction after being totaled in crashes, all but one had fewer than 10,000 miles on the odometer.

An Austin-built 2022 Model Y Long Range involved in a front collision and listed by IAA in early January had a retail price of $61,388 and estimated repair cost of $50,388. The vehicle's owner was not listed.

A second Austin-built Model Y, involved in a side collision and listed by IAA, had a retail price of $72,667 and estimated repair cost of $43,814.

 

If people don't have solar chargers in place, most people are charging their cars overnight when demand is down. Many electric companies (not TECO) offer lower rates then, that keeps pressure off the grid.

 

Uhmm, no. Federal law mandates a minimum warranty of 8 years/100,000 miles on the battery. In California the minumum warranty is 10 yrs/150K miles. Some other "green" states mandate 10 years, too. EV battery failures are not common, except in Nissan Leafs.