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Duke volleyball player takes racist abuse at BYU- can’t be confirmed

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Aug 28, 2022.

  1. Gator515151

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    I'm no lawyer but I do have some common sense. In today's world everybody carries cellphones and cellphone cameras. With hundreds of fans in that section wouldn't you think someone would have caught it on camera? Video/audio of someone using the N-word would be all over twitter and don't think for a second BYU fans were covering for the culprit, you know if it had been a Gator game and you yourself witnessed such a thing even from another Gator fan you would have recorded it.
     
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  2. uftaipan

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    Sounds like you would prefer the story was true. The evidence now suggests that a BYU fan did not really shout racial epithets at a opposing black player while the rest of the BYU fanbase sat back and did nothing. Is this not a good thing?
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    I have no idea if they did it or not. But I'm not going to decide this woman is wrong just because BYU investigated itself and said it's innocent.
     
  4. oragator1

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    to be fair, no one has come forward from the crowd to say they heard it (if she could hear it on the court hundreds of others could too and they aren’t all racists), no your tube videos from the match that have it, BYU sent someone into the stands during the match and they couldn’t find it, and nothing in the audio showed it either.
    I think it’s reasonable to assume she was well meaning in her protestations, but misheard something. And of course Duke is going to back her up, as they should. She was seemingly sincere, and it can’t ever be proven it didn’t happen. They were never going to do anything other than what they did.
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    Maybe so. But her statement implied her teammates heard it too. There's a video of her teammates looking into the student section with angry expressions while she was serving. So yes, she may well have misheard what was said. But I'm not going to say she's definitely wrong because BYU exonerated itself.
     
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  6. Gator515151

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    This incident shows how politically biased fact checkers are. We all know how quick fact checkers are to come out and debunk certain stories. Where the heck are the fact checkers on this. They ignore this type of story as long as they can.
     
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  7. kygator

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    No, it's a giant conspiracy to protect one person who yelled racial slurs. Everyone is covering it up. Duke players and staff could come forward and say they also heard it. However, they decided it would be better to just make a generic statement of support.
     
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  8. studegator

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  9. g8trjax

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    Yeah, that's a shocker. :emoji_joy: The whole thing was televised but if there was an accusation of a racial slur, well, it just has to be true...
     
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  10. partdopy

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    What further investigation should they perform against a special needs fan being accused of something with no evidence either from recorded audio or people seated in the same section who were compromised of Duke and BYU fans? I think they should leave the guy alone and let him enjoy games. Teams should be embarrassed reacting this way to a special needs person.
     
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  11. kygator

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    Link to video?
     
  12. studegator

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    "Come On Man"
    Is that the same as "Bring it On" ?
    I seem to get a lot of them (come on man) by one poster on this board.
    Maybe my "Wokness" has waned over the last few years-----
     
  13. gator_lawyer

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    It's hardly conclusive of anything, but if you watch the Duke players, you see #6 go from high-fiving to quickly looking back to the crowd and seeming unhappy. At the same time, the girl in the black t-shirt in the first row of the crowd taps her friend, looks unhappy, and points behind her. And then the camera shows #4 to #6's right and a Duke player in a black t-shirt both looking into the crowd and looking angry.
     
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  14. kygator

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    Maybe it's just on my end but all I see is the blue twitter bird. Nothing to click on.
     
  15. kygator

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    The reaction I saw didn't look like the outrage of someone who just heard the n word being yelled at her teammate. At that point, she had already told her teammates and coaches that she heard the slurs. BYU had sent security into the stands to get closer. The teammate may have just been looking to see if she could see anything. I would have expected a different reaction if she actually did, but not everyone reacts the same way. She didn't even make a comment to any of her teammates.
     
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  16. gator_lawyer

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    Sure. Try this:
    Twitter Link (Click)

    You hear somebody shout something from the stands immediately at the start of the video. That's when the first Duke player in the frame turns and looks. It's also when the girl in the front row taps her friend and points. The camera then pans out, and you see two other Duke players looking into the stands and scowling. While what was said did sound a little like the n-word, it's not clear enough to actually confirm that.
     
  17. gator_lawyer

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    It looked to me like that sort of outrage. The blonde girl looking into the crowd looks very angry. And it sounds like the person is shouting the n-word right at the start of the video. Again, though, the audio isn't clear enough for me to say that with certainty.
     
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  19. kygator

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    I always thought it was an invitation to a party or dinner. Was feeling pretty good about myself with all the invitations I was getting, but wondered why nobody gave the time and location.
     
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    Keep in mind there were several posters in this very board who could “just look at Sandman’s smug face and tell he is quirky”. Reading players body language is conclusive. Far more so than the fact that absolutely NO ONE has come forward to back up the claim or produce a shred of evidence. Some would rather assume the worst, assume guilt, than wait for any evidence to surface.
    And when it never does surface, we can read the body language, consult the astral planes, look to the birds migration and conjure someone somewhere that is guilty.
    After all.. the accusation was RACISM. What better banner to rally beneath.. true or not!