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Duke volleyball player takes racist abuse at BYU- can’t be confirmed

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Aug 28, 2022.

  1. gator95

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    That all makes sense, IF it was true.
     
  2. proudgator1973

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    More and more it's looking like there wasn't a racial slur. The fact the refs didn't stop the game, the Duke coach didn't demand a stop and ejection, and the fact the reviews of all of the camera footage and cell phone footage doesn't support the allegation makes it seem like it didn't happen. But I feel sorry for BYU. They have been found guilty in the court of public opinion without due process.
     
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  3. ridgetop

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    I think NCAA should charge South Carolina with a loss and BYU should send a bill to them if they refuse to play.
     
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  4. kygator

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    I would feel sorry for BYU if they weren’t so quick to throw a fan under the bus.
     
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  5. proudgator1973

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    I agree. That was surely an appeasement response. Although I don't know enough about what he actually did if he didn't use a racial slur.
     
  6. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Come on. This isn't about you and me. It's about your claim that "libs don't need evidence."
    A blanket statement like that is always simply foolish and myopic.
    As Ridgetop pointed out, there's plenty of examples on both sides of the aisle.
    Maybe you can tell us again how incredibly nonpartisan you are.
     
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  7. gator95

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    I call out trump plenty. But look who came out and posted first on the BYU is racist thread. Trump and anyone who thinks the election was stolen is a complete idiot. But this is about people being judge and executioner before seeing if there was actual evidence.
     
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  8. oragator1

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    To be fair I posted first, since I started the thread.
    And I did so only because BYU had not only acknowledged it happened, but also said that someone had been identified and banned. Which made it a legitimate story at that point and not just an accusation. I have always been one who said “let’s hear both sides before throwing people under the bus” in these types of things, but at the time we essentially had, which is why I started this. It turns out that reporting was only partially true.
    I do believe the player thought it happened, whether it was just someone yelling “cougars” and in the noise she misheard that for a bad word, or it did happen and it just wasn’t caught I do not know. And now we may never know. But it wasn’t a concocted event.
     
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  9. stingbb

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    How ironic that the only person proven to be a racist in the whole situation is the volleyball player’s godmother.

    The good thing is I’m sure we’ll hear apologies to BYU from race baiters Jemelle Hill and Mike Freeman. Or not. Heck, Dawn Staley needs to do the same but let’s not hold out breath on that ever happening either.
     
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  10. gator95

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    Exactly. Race baiters never apologize. They sound like the Libs on here rationalizing performing surgeries on children. It’s sick.
     
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  11. tissuepapergator

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    The entire episode was shameful. And the allegation was implausibe from the start. A random idiot screeming a racist slur for an entire women's vollyball game, undetected or even tolerated by everyone else in the arena.

    But as ridiculous as the allegation was, the reasoning supporting it was even worse. The LDS Church has a deplorable history of racism, therefore we should presume new allegations of racism lodged against it are true. The problem with that is the "N" word isn't only racism. It's also vulgar, profane, and obnoxious. Does any think that an insitution like BYU with a massive athletic department with a international reach is going to tolerate that behavior in 2022? Or that the many educators, administrators, high profile doners, and families in attendence would tolerate that behavior? Of course not. But that's the line we were sold, and many otherwise intelligent people believed.

    What the allegation really accomplished was embarassing a man with a mental disability, who BYU didn't hesitate to throw under the bus. The most socially awkward guy in the building pays the price and no one seems to care.

    https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/31/23330206/byu-duke-volleyball?_amp=true
     
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  12. LTG61

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    The OP should edit the thread title:

    "Duke volleyball player FAKES racist abuse at BYU"
     
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  13. tissuepapergator

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    https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/31/23330206/byu-duke-volleyball?_amp=true

    He supposedly approached the Duke vollyball team and said something. The allegation was "watch your backs" but based on what I read it was most likely something harmless. The whole thing was a joke. And I don't feel sorry for BYU based on how they reacted.
     
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  14. tissuepapergator

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    Right. And probably a fan with a mental disability, too. Most likely the most vulnerable person in the arena, like if a Duke player with a disability complained of abusive language, and BYU found a reason to throw the only black fan in the arena under the bus.
     
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  15. Gatorrick22

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    Have a look around in the news...
     
  16. tissuepapergator

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    I don't want to conclude she faked it yet. After all, why would a strikingly attractive Duke scholarship athlete with so much going for her ever lie? She should be given the benefit of the doubt until all hypothetical explanations are excluded.

    How about "Socially-Inept Autistic BYU Fan Cleared following Public Humiliation: Phantom Racist Still on the Loose"

    Or

    "BYU Volleyball: All Naturalistic Explanations for Slur Ruled Out; Telepathy still Suspected."

    There is no reason to jump to conclusions quite yet.
     
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  17. WarDamnGator

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    Funny, upthread you said, even if you were only 80% sure you heard a slur….

    But now everyone is a “race baiter” because the volleyball player spoke up about what she thought she heard, even if it turns out she may have misheard what was being said…
     
  18. gator95

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    Did i accuse her of being a race baiter? No.
     
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    I don't think it's a matter of her mishearing what was said. Not a simple mistake on that. She said she heard it "throughout the entirety of the match." That implies she heard it several times. So far, there is zero evidence this ever happened. So she's either lying or not. Based on the evidence, she's a liar that needs to be called out. I don't care what side of the aisle your on, what she did was wrong.
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    Is this fake News? Or has this been corroborated as FACT?