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Draft Alito opinion leaked overturning Roe

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  1. ncargat1

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    You know, lots of people have been laughing at me for calling the Republican party The American Taliban. Does not seem quite so funny these days does it?
     
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  2. OklahomaGator

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    Interesting read on SCOTUSblog.

    How the leak might have happened - SCOTUSblog

     
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  3. gogator7444

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    Dutch doctor preparing to send abortion pills to women in the US.
     
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  4. tampagtr

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    I view this as related because I think there is now an attitude after the Alito opinion that anything goes, that there is an outpouring of pent up frustration and that the Court has signaled that righteous anger should be released. Much like the decisions on voter suppression and campaign finance, other actors such as legislators took the Court's decisions as signals that there was no moral dimension to them giving in to their impulses to take seemingly unacceptable measures that might have been objectionable previously, to basically succumb to one's political Id. Law still is too intertwined with conceptions of morality and our political subconscious, and when the highest legal authority says a practice that we may have thought was impermissible is indeed permissible, it tends to pull off all the internal regulators on such conduct


     
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  5. gogator7444

    gogator7444 GC Hall of Fame

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    Found this interesting.

    "Parents Who Have Abortions
    Did you know that a majority of people who have abortions are already parents? Of those who received an abortion, 60 percent had "one or more" previous children—according to 2019 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Their reasons for terminating a pregnancy are complex, from the state of their relationship, to personal finances, to reluctance to add another child to their family. For them, abortion is the choice that makes the best, or only, sense."

    'I'm a Mom, and I Had an Abortion'
     
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  6. tampagtr

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    Have always heard that but never saw a statistic
     
  7. sierragator

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    I'm sure some of them would love a theocracy with some kind fundamentalist tribunal holding us all accountable for our "sins".
     
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  8. ursidman

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    I've seen this claim of a fetal heartbeat at 6 weeks a lot. Can a fetus have a heartbeat before it even has a heart? A fetus does not have a heart at 6 weeks gestation. Just a group of cells that twitch and emit electrical impulses that are detectable via ultrasound.
    Is a 'fetal heartbeat' really a heartbeat at 6 weeks?
     
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  9. ursidman

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    This is the guy Alito references in his draft opinion. Hopefully the references to Hale will be dropped from final opinion but regardless, I think it says a lot about Alito that he even cites him. Read the entire string. Nutso alert

     
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    bsolutely crazy. Listen to what she screams at the end of the video. “I murdered my own baby”

    This ridiculous hypocrite chose to have an abortion>regrets the decision 33 years later>feels no one else should have the choice she had.

    Wow
     
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  12. gogator7444

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    You think any of them care? They just want to ban it but use 6 weeks as a "see you have enough time" statement.
     
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    She is all of them.
     
  14. duchen

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    All this would do is cause him to delete the reference. And be pissed at his law clerk. If it stays, good material for the dissent. So what.
     
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    The more I think about it, the more I believe that the gay rights decision would be overruled as well. That case does not rest on right to privacy but it does rest on 14th Amendment substantive due process.
     
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  17. gogator7444

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    If you're a woman who uses these or knows someone, delete it. Now.

     
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  19. ncargat1

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    We are on an almost unstoppable path towards civil war in this country.
     
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