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Draft Alito opinion leaked overturning Roe

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, May 2, 2022.

  1. OklahomaGator

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    Would not Article IV of the US Constitution cover that?
     
  2. GatorNorth

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    Dunno-is marriage a judicial proceeding? Child custody rights? Insurance benefits? Nothing is adjudicated—it’s a private contract. All of them. Seems like it could get grey very quickly.
     
  3. tampagtr

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    if you are referring to Full Faith and Credit, there is an exception in that states are not required to give full faith and credit to orders from other jurisdictions that violate something like the deeply held public policy of that state. A camera the exact wording but I could look it up. But just about every state that oppose gay marriage made sure to pass laws indicating that it was their deeply held public policy never to recognize same-sex marriage. Whatever the proper legal standard is, they made sure to invoke it
     
  4. OklahomaGator

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    But a marriage license is issued by the state. So is a drivers license, you are not saying that other states don't have to recognize those? Are we trying to be a little hyperbolic?
     
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  5. gator95

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    Don't have a huge opinion one way or the other, but if the SC says keep it in the states, than so be it.
     
  6. l_boy

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    It never really dawned on me that this pending decision opens up for the next time republicans control house, senate and White House for a total abortion ban law.
     
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  7. gator95

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    Sort of like what the Dems would've done already if they could have?
     
  8. BossaGator

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    Decent chance they’ll have a real civil war on their hands if they do that
     
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  10. slocala

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    As in civil cases of divorce as wives turn every man blue… in the balls. :confused:
     
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  11. mrhansduck

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    Most criminal laws are handled by states, but I suppose they could argue that it affects interstate commerce and gives them national/federal jurisdiction? Or maybe they would try to do it as a regulation on doctors who accept Medicaid, for example, as opposed to a crime?
     
  12. slocala

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    And then get repealed when Dems are in control? Republicans would also have to do away with the filibuster.
     
  13. gogator7444

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    To sum up for those that don't want to watch it. There's no ban on abortion in Islam. In Judaism it's required to save the life of a mother & no ban on it.
     
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  14. Gator715

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    You completely misunderstood the point of my post. I said we should apply the textual meaning and intent to new phenomena today. If the Constitution applies to things that didn't exist in the 1700s and 1800s (television, the internet, cars, etc.), that may apply to gun advances as well. There were guns with rapid-fire capabilities around when the Second Amendment was passed. The notion that the Second Amendment was passed without any foresight in advances in guns is just ridiculous.

    Also, we don't have to view the Constitution through the lens of the 3/5ths compromise because we passed Constitutional Amendments. That's how the system is supposed to work.
     
  15. gogator7444

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    Well obviously in his case a high school diploma is "overeducated".

     
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  16. Gator715

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    You do not need to be religious to oppose Roe v. Wade or abortion.
     
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  17. GatorNorth

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    I believe a marriage license is issued by the County where you reside, not the state. Although the state may make the rules.

    Massachusetts legalized gay marriage in 2004. Do you think a gay married couple who moved from Massachusetts to Texas in 2005 had a marriage recognized as lawful in Texas? NFW.

    Re drivers license, that’s more nuanced. You can certainly drive legally over state lines, but once you move you’re required to obtain a new license in your new state of residence within a fixed period of time.

    Hyperbolic? Don’t think so. These are not black and white issues are they?
     
  18. tampagtr

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    Sen. Blackburn again competing to have the most utterly inane congressional take on public affairs, in this case thinking that the Democrats are pressuring John Roberts to see Ketanji Brown Jackson in advance to have a 10 person Supreme Court. You can't make this stuff up

     
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  19. WarDamnGator

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    My professional license is issued by a state and it's not recognized by any other state ... so yes.
     
  20. orangeblue_coop

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    Fear-mongering, baseless accusations and zany conspiracies. It's what that contingent thrives off of. Now watch their brainless sheep run with it and start repeating it lol.
     
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