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Down goes Cheney 65-29 oof lol.. don't give up on her libs, she will probably be on MSNBC by Monday.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by back2back2006, Aug 2, 2022.

  1. flgator2

    flgator2 Premium Member

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    He didn't try to overthrow the Gov't, only the truly extreme leftist actually believes that lie, you are just sad.
     
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    He actually did but he aborted when Pence wouldn't play along.
     
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  3. citygator

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    Well, there’s that and all the great legislation Biden’s been marshaling and the terrorist elimination, and the employment strength, and the opposition to Russia, but, yes there’s also the astonishment that people support that moron.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    It is interesting that you are both trying to claim the lack of a swift prosecution is evidence that there is no evidence of a crime while also complaining about the fact that the DOJ just utilized a common tool to find evidence of a crime after more than a year of being far less aggressive, stating that they shouldn't have been so aggressive. Almost like none of this is on the level. I guess if they have evidence of a Trump crime, they should move rapidly to prosecute him, but use no aggressive investigatory tools to get there...
     
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  5. flgator2

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    Nope only in your warped mind
     
  6. gator95

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    Lack of swift prosecution? I need a little help, when did this happen again?
     
  7. mdgator05

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    The event? About 20 months ago. But, as a reminder, you thought that it wasn't reasonable to even serve a search warrant, much less prosecute him, after 15 months of trying to get Trump to abide by the law...
     
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  8. coleg

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    700+ convicted rioters might disagree with you. Oath Keepers convicted for sedition might disagree with you. Several law suits filed against Trump by law enforcement might disagree with you, but we're certain you can provide linked evidence to back up : "Nope only in your warped mind" and "He didn't try to overthrow the Gov't, only the truly extreme leftist actually believes that lie, you are just sad." Be better
     
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  9. flgator2

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    Lol, come on be better
     
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  10. gator95

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    Search warrant had nothing to do with 1/6. That would be fishing for evidence. Remember you said it was to only return classified documents.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    Oh, so if the search warrant had involved 1/6, you would have supported it? I mean, they tried everything to get him to follow the law on records and classified documents and he outright refused, and you still complained about it being too aggressive and asked them to continue giving him subpoenas that he wasn't complying with for documents.
     
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    Good. Hageman is more of a Roosevelt conservation minded Republican focused on local land management.

    However, she won’t last long if she doesn’t focus on Wyoming, working with the EPA, and being proactive about conservation… sadly she might become an overbearing Trump mouthpiece focused on dumb social wars.
     
  13. coleg

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    Poster, as usual, is somewhat lacking in supportive factual detail as evidenced in multiple threads. Sad that that approximates the definition of troll... but you be you. Sigh
     
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  14. gator95

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    You are the one saying he had classified documents and never mentioned 1/6 until today. So sounds like a fishing expedition which is illegal. Let’s see the warrant. Not sure why you cuts on the left fall for the “Charlie Brown kicking the football” but you guys always do. Much easier to see things for what they are by being a centrist. When one’s political leanings are so far to one side they lose common sense. It’s been 18 months, if they thought Trump was hiding some super incriminating document that admits he was trying to overthrow the election they wouldn’t have waited so long. Makes zero sense. Back to the dog and pony show!
     
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    Because of the warrant on Mar a Lago, everything the FBI took under that was listed can be used against Trump. There is no forbidden fruit, including if the FBI finds anything regarding Jan 6. But no, 1/6 was not the reason the FBI raided MAR.

    There have also been several timelines posted on the FBI MAR raid you look at as explanations as to why the FBI waited so long. First, the National Archives didn't have a record or what might have been taken by Trump until May, 2021, or about 4 months after Trump left office. The Archives requested the materials back, and Trump slow walked for months, until Trump finally did give some materials back in January, 2022. By February, 2022, the Archives knew it was still missing documents and got the DOJ/FBI involved. Around the same time, the FBI was informed by a Trump insider what kinds of docs were at MAR, and where they were located.

    As to no look political, the FBI/DOJ tried everything they could to get the materials back in a manner that wouldn't draw public attention. This included asking Trump again for all classified materials. Trump responded with an affidavit from a lawyer stating all classified materials were already with the Archives, which was a lie. The DOJ later issued a subpoena for the materials in June, which Trump ignored. By early August, the DOJ was facing it's own 90-day deadline of not acting in what could be perceived as a political move 90 days before a general election. They raided MAR 92 days before the election.

    The National Archives and DOJ/FBI treated Trump with kid gloves. They tried everything to give Trump the benefit of the doubt and have him return the materials without incident. Trump refused to cooperate. You could make the argument that the FBI should have moved in sooner, for sure. But as is, the raid was considered very political. Had the FBI gone in sooner without exhausting all other possible avenues, things would have been even more political. Something Garland at the DOJ tried everything to avoid. But in the end, had no choice.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    No, that would be the DOJ and the courts, who said they had probable cause. I am neither of those entities.

    The warrant has been released.

    READ: Search warrant for Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort - CNNPolitics

    I am sure that you will be back to praise them for releasing the warrant soon. Centrist that you are.

    Oh, I don't think that search had anything to do with 1/6. Just pointing out that you criticize investigations against Trump for being too aggressive, while saying that the fact that they haven't been even more aggressive is because they have nothing in terms of evidence, and apparently don't see the irony there. Not that you are supporting him, of course.
     
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  17. snatchmagnet

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    Can’t have it both ways. Was the warrant about 1/6 or about classified info, or about any dirt he may or may not have had on certain people? Actually that’s three ways. I’ve always dreamt of those.
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    I never claimed the warrant was about 1/6. I am just pointing out the absurdity of both criticizing basic investigatory activities as too aggressive because Trump used to be President while simultaneously using the lack of even more aggressive measures as evidence that he didn't do something wrong.
     
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    The only thing I pointed out was I throng the raid could backfire and help resurrect Trumps presidential campaign. I think it was stupid of the fbi to do what they did because of the ramifications if nothing comes of the raid. I’ll wait to see if trump is indicted. BUT if trump somehow wins the presidency in 24 it will have a lot to do with most people thinking the fbi played politics. Plenty of Dems think it was a terrible move to do. But you go back to your blinders and think trump is being indicted any second.
     
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