Don't want to bring the COVID thread back to the top Just have a question.

Time to lock or combine this thread.

 

Applies to DeSantis threads too, I presume ?

 

We can keep this going forever.

 

Yes, you were among the first in.

 

My favorite all time Covid death. The young man was healthy until he was struck by lightening, I mean Covid …

Another case at Shands, a 35-year-old male, was listed as a Dade County death from COVID-19: “[The decedent] was working on the roof of a home in Middleburg on 5/28. It started to rain and the decedent and his coworkers stopped working. Bystanders in the neighborhood and the workers on the roof observed a flash of lighting and heard a loud explosion, and several workers were thrown off of the roof. Immediately following the lighting strike, a worker on the roof observed the decedent collapse, fall off of the roof, and land facedown on grass. The decedent’s muscles were reported to be contracted and shaking, and caused the decedent’s body to roll over onto his backside. It was also reported by the workers that the decedent’s eyeballs were rolled back into his skull. Bystanders in the neighborhood observed the decedent on the ground, called 911, and started CPR until EMS arrived on scene. Following the lightning strike, the workers observed a large hole on the roof that appeared burnt. According to medical records, the decedent was transported via EMS to Orange Park Medical Center and was found to have spinal fractures with spinal cord transection, a skull base fracture, and pulmonary contusions. He was transferred on the same day to UF Health Shands Hospital for further management and was admitted to the surgical intensive care unit on mechanical ventilation. He tested positive for the COVID-19 virus on 5/29 and was transferred to the medical intensive care unit. In addition to acute hypoxic respiratory failure and neurogenic shock, he was found to have a subarachnoid hemorrhage, bilateral pulmonary contusions, C3 & C7 spinous process fractures, complete T4 spinal cord transection, a skull base fracture. Trauma surgery, neurosurgery, and neurocritical care continued to follow the decedent and the decedent’s condition did not improve. Examinations were consistent with severe hypoxic brain injury and his prognosis was poor. The decedent’s family elected to transition to full comfort measures on 6/9 and he was pronounced dead on 6/9.”

Local COVID-19 death certificates all show multiple co-morbidities - Alachua Chronicle

 

Underlying health has been one of the driving factors of poor outcomes from day 1. In fact it is likely the driving factor with age being the second. Obesity can become a problem for some that are not elderly but typically is it the morbid or diabetic who might have issues.

 

If 2020ff taught us anything is that the greatest risk factor for dying is old age.

 

Yes, we agree that more risk factors can cause worse outcomes, that seems like common sense, really. But that doesn't change the fact that the initial pre-vaccine death toll included 30% that had no known health problems. This may have been one of the first big studies that looked at risk factors, from May of 2021, which is where that 30% comes from ... when faced with Data like that, asking everyone to get the vaccine, wear masks, and social distance what absolutely the correct thing to do.

Mortality Rate of Patients With COVID-19 Based on Underlying Health Conditions - PMC (nih.gov)

 

Everyone says TDS is a thing, but I know a bunch on this board who have CDS (Covid derangement syndrome). It’s scary how quick the usual suspects are to infiltrate any thread related to Covid with their usual propaganda and misinformation. Get a life and stop peddling bullshit, it’s pathetic how obsessed you are with being proven wrong time and again.

 

Updating true Covid death total: 0

An inordinate number of “young healthy” died of other causes likely stemming from the effects of panic and despair.

 

From the annals of historic mass-derangement, BBC headlines from March 2020 …

“This is the worst attack on Britain since the Blitz!” wails 26 year old nurse.

Beloved Irish playwright tragically cut down by Covid at the age of 83. “We thought he was doing better with his lung cancer”, friends lament.

15 year old Brighton boy, killed two years ago in car crash, killed again by Covid.

 

Or being stupid.

 

I don’t read most of these posts anymore. I have pretty much all vaccine skeptics ignored. What questionable beliefs and facts are you referring to, aside from the obvious antivax disinformation.

 

Nothing stupider (and crueler) than believing other people are deadly disease vectors and blaming them for your health outcomes.

 

Lie after lie after lie …

 

Taken from substack news letter--
→ Donald McNeil on being lied to about Covid’s origins: Before he was forced out by The New York Times in one of the dumber scandals of 2020–2021, Donald McNeil was the paper’s top Covid reporter, a graybeard with the gravitas to say when something was an emergency and the experience to know when he was being manipulated. And yet in his new memoir, he reflects on how top scientists flatly lied to him about Covid’s origins, a truth we now know through their various Slack messages. Those messages show top scientists around the world coordinating both on the origins lie and specifically how to deceive McNeil about it. He writes about being a “victim of deception,” about being disappointed in himself, and about how hard it was to push back against their wall of faux certainty: “It’s one thing to be lied to by a politician and fail to check it out. But on viral evolution, to whom do you go for a second opinion? If Albert Einstein assured you that nuclear fission is harmless, whom would you trust to quote saying, ‘Einstein’s dead wrong?’ ”

We’re still due for the reckoning we deserve on this. The take from Experts is still why does it matter where Covid came from, and asking is racist. Call me crazy, but I do care if Covid was made in a U.S.-funded Chinese lab and would want to, like, figure out what went wrong there.

 

It’s disappointing. I would actually find it useful sharing medically accepted info and latest trends vs a swirl of arguing conspiracy theories.

 

Hammer an aging and already unhealthy populace with fear months and months and months on end.

Feign shock when report endless maladies ranging from brain fog to chronic fatigue to various visible signs of psychological stress.

 

The real and pretty much only evidence points to it coming out of the wet market, but that’s not as fun as conspiracy theories.

 

Both wet market and lab leak believers are missing the point: there never was a virus.

Note: a virus was never needed to generate planetary panic and multitudes of deaths, only a dubious diagnostic and insidious information flow

When You Wish Upon A "Bio-Weapon"