DOJ looking at options for homeless, mentally ill

Other countries have done a pretty good job with these problems. We have no desire to actually solve it

 

So house them. Feed them. clothe them.

Just in jail.

$42k a year.

 

The Norwegian countries essentially treat homeless people/mentally ill as a temporary solvable problem.

 

This is a HHS and HUD issue, not DOJ. Looking at it from a criminal POV is ridiculous.

 

Walmart FEMA camps.

 

We're not allowed to reference certain historical events on this board anymore. But if we were allowed to reference them I'd hypothetically point out that they came for the mentally ill first.

 

this is a tough issue- some of them may be mentally ill- some of them seem to like living on the street and some if them it is just hard times

 

I think it maybe a DoJ issue these days because homeless people cannot be forced to go to shelters or other publicly provided facilities. While in certain states, people can be involuntarily committed to mental facilities for certain things.

I wonder if the DoJ is trying to figure out a new policy that would allow them to make a determination that if someone is addicted to drugs, they could be considered a danger to themselves, which would allow them to be involuntarily committed. This would require an expansion of faculties required to treat these people. I would assume that this is mainly aimed at DC, since it falls under the preview of Congress and has a lot of homeless encampments.

 

More obfuscation. This is being studied by the Justice Department because the scumbags runnig the country and their zombie supporters do not want to solve anything. They want the homeless and mentally challenged to disappear. Guessing their "solution" involves rounding up mass groups, forcing them into "camps" and providing "showers" for them all.

 

These are state and local issues, not Federal. Now, if certain states put their homeless on a bus or plane and ship them to another state, the Federal government should step in.

Why didn’t that no good cop just leave John Rambo alone?

 

nope, cheaper in a tropical paradise

once we take cuba, we can warehouse them cheap there

 

I don’t know what they are proposing but what we are or aren’t doing is disgraceful. In terms of these encampments my understanding is most of the people are mentally ill and/or addicted to drugs. Just leaving them there doesn’t help them or anybody else. I’d prefer to see them get addiction or mental health treatment, whichever is appropriate but even jail is likely better for addicts.

 

To do anything costs $$$. You have to hire mental health professionals. Whether employed by the state as a case worker, or paying a private facility for institutionalizing a severely ill person. The same goes for drug addicts or just people who need general temp shelter. Nothing is free. To pay professionals requires $$$$.

Hiring the people should be a no brainer, except this admin won’t do that or would do the opposite. The facilities, even in the unlikely event the many billions were put forth, also have a huge NIMBY effect. It should obviously be a local thing, city by city and town by town. But let’s face it - NOBODY wants a mental health or drug rehab facility built next door so it’s hard to locate those things where they are most needed even if there was a big push to do federal grants to help build rehab centers (which is not something anyone should expect here anyway).

 

Rambo needed to work on his manners.
But in his defense, Rambo only killed one person and that was inadvertent.

 

Justice department should have zero role in this. Should be a healthcare issue. Not a law enforcement one. Concentration camps of mental health victims and drug abusers doest sound so good. Treatment facilities, maybe. It really is a tough balance of individual rights and healthcare.. the DOJ is unequipped for that balance.

 

The issue is that just because someone is on drugs, does not mean that they can be forced into treatment. That is one of the major issues in homeless encampments in California. The people living in those encampments are choosing to do so because they can use drugs there legally and freely. If they try and go into a homeless shelter, they cannot take drugs into the shelter or use them in the shelter. So they prefer to live on the streets and do drugs rather than go to shelters.

 

that’s why they should go to jail if all other options are refused. I say that as a parent of a recovering addict.