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DOGE: Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to lead

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Nov 12, 2024 at 7:45 PM.

  1. dangolegators

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    What an unhinged rant.
     
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  2. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    It's important that the government continue to waste money because eliminating waste might collapse the economy. We shouldn't even *look.* That would be bad.
     
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  3. surfn1080

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    You realize there is a thing called google.

    Tesla Reveals Percentage of Parts Made in North America for 2025 Models

    The vast majority of Tesla’s part content is produced within the US and Canada. Tesla holds a tie for first place with Honda. The Model 3 Long Range AWD and RWD are in first place alongside the Honda Ridgeline AWD TrailSport, with 75% of their parts being created in North American.
     
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  4. gator95

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    Yeah, it's me that's unhinged, not the person complaining that someone is basically volunteering to audit our books. The spiraling isn't stopping for you. Sorry.
     
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  5. gator95

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    Don't bring facts to rant about losing the election. That's all this is. Anyone complaining about musk/vivek auditing the books is akin to anyone claiming you shouldn't need ID to vote lol. It's just a loser argument from the get-go.
     
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  6. dangolegators

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    Said no one ever.
     
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  7. dangolegators

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    Get someone to audit the books who doesn't have a massive conflict of interest. It's not that hard to find someone more qualified than Musk who also doesn't receive billions from the government for his own companies. This is really basic common sense here.
     
  8. OklahomaGator

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    Maybe that is why there is two of them, Vivek can oversee those areas where Musk has a potential conflict, NASA for example, and vice versa.
     
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  9. gaterzfan

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    Progressives cannot think it is possible to perform an audit as they believe there are no objective standards against which something (eg financial performance) can be measured. Everything is relative to the observer perspective of what is correct.

     
  10. citygator

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    My point has been that if you want to cut the budget you arent going to do it through efficiency. Its too small. Government is about 10% of the budget so making that more efficient is small. 90% is social programs and defense that no one wants to address. Acting like you can find meaningful fraud, overpriced hammers, and too many workers to make big inroads is fodder for those of you who cant math. You run down education but you cant grasp fairly simple concepts.

    To reduce the budget you need to:
    • Cut defense spending
    • Nationalize healthcare
    • Reduce government pensions and retirement benefits
    • Cut back social security payments to the top half
    Absolutely none of that is doable. Too many voters and businesses impacted. So this will be a silly exercise of finding some silly things to talk about. Youre doing well so far on the silliness level.
     
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  11. gator95

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    LOL. This is so awesome. You think the richest person in the world is now trying to fleece the US Govt out of money because he's greedy? This is next level delusion. Someone is spiraling so hard! Damn. This is hilarious. I'm here for it.
     
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  12. dangolegators

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    Right. Narcissistic billionaires aren't greedy. Talk about delusion.
     
  13. gator95

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    We need across the board budget cuts and to cut govt waste. I love how people don't care about waste when it's not their own money. But it is our money. All taxpayers money. Not wanting someone to audit the books for free is like turning down 5 star QB because we already have one on the team. Just next level dumb.
     
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  14. citygator

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    You dont understand math. Tell me how much you are going to save with "accross the board budget cuts"? I mean your posts are intellectually about a 7th grade level. Ive given you tons of data to provide informed debate but all you do is post nonsense talking points at 300,000 feet.
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    After a little reading, I've come to a few conclusions. I learned that the Reagan administration basically did something similar, and it didnt amount to much, as no one even remembers it. So that's one way it could go. It also appears they want to invoke some kind of 50 year old law, which may or may not have legal merit, which would in effect act like a line-item veto, letting the executive decide what is funded in a budget (which wouldn't apply to mandatory spending, so appropriations). If you recall there was a slightly-under the radar supreme court case where they challenged the ACA on the crazy idea that certain things perpetually appropriated literally had to be reapproved by congress every year. The court didn't buy it, and this seems to be their end-around on gutting certain programs they cant or wont by act of congress. In Florida, the governor has a line item veto, and congress will pass a budget, then someone like DeSantis will take a hatchet to various things, like public school money or arts funding. Its not even really about 'waste,' because Florida is required to run a balanced budget. Anyway, long story short, the line item veto has been a conservative wish list thing for a long time. Bush even acted like he had one when he didnt. TL/DR: Executive branch power grab
     
  16. 92gator

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    Lol! Perfect!
     
  17. gator95

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    How do we save with across the board budget cuts? It saves what we spend. Am i talking to a child? The US has a spending problem. Look, I get it, you are bent out of shape because of the election. You are now just flailing and bitching to bitch. You are looking foolish here. But have at it. I'll be here to call out your BS. You are complaining about someone auditing the books for FREE. This is hilarious you are arguing this. Just awesome.
     
  18. dangolegators

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    It's a lot like the fox volunteering to watch over the henhouse for free.
     
  19. gator95

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    LOL. So your contention is Musk wants to fleece the US govt for a few million(since you say he won't find anything big to cut) and risk:
    1. Going to jail
    2. Losing all govt contracts

    All for a few million according to you. Man, I don't even know what to say. You are beginning to scare me. I don't think you are thinking clearly. Sorry.
     
  20. wgbgator

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    Yes, waste is subjective, not objective. That's why we have a congress to enact a budget, not some egghead academic, CEO or engineer who's an expert on what a country needs. Its called democracy. I dont think an unelected panel of wealthy elitists is the solution to our budget 'woes.'