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Does the constitution prohibit Trump from serving as president?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Aug 27, 2023.

  1. AndyGator

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    Your arm is going to get mighty tired :cool:
     
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  2. l_boy

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    Back to the OP, apparently this legal theory has gone to court in CO and MN which pretty much guarantees it will go to the Supreme Ct. that will be really interesting. Common sense would say that Supreme Ct ignores it, or interpret it very narrowly as inapplicable, but you never know. They could stand behind it, with a qualifier that there has to be some official deterministic mechanism to decide if a candidate is in fact an insurrectionist.
     
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  3. l_boy

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    No need to share.
     
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    You've never been any good at that either
     
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    Yikes. trump as executive and Unitary Executive Power in practice is not something I wish to experience and a gut punch to even consider.

    Imagine thinking the Federalist Society is too squishy and mainstream.

    Here is a free link to the NYT piece. If Trump Wins, His Allies Want Lawyers Who Will Bless a More Radical Agenda
     
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  6. BLING

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    Slavery never should have legally existed under a plain reading of the U.S. constitution. So how could the emancipation proclamation have been Lincoln “wiping his ass with the constitution”??? Every southern plantation owner and the regional elites who supported slavery already did so on a daily basis! I’d say so did those who suppressed civil rights until 1964. All in flagrant violation of the constitution, a law spelling this out shouldn’t have been required, nevertheless it took 200 years for the country to get that right.

    If you are referring to Lincoln declaring martial law during the civil war, you think that makes him an “insurrectionist” as opposed to say… the traitorous secessionists it was necessary to put down, or the confederate army who fought against the U.S. govt to uphold their “rights” to own humans as slaves? Yeah.. ok man.
     
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    A crying shame the confederacy did not win the war. :rolleyes:
     
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    you do know that I can read your posts and I have feelings
     
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    Until the Reconstruction Amendments, we wrote slavery into the Constitution.
     
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  10. l_boy

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    You were a close second.






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    I assume you are referring to the 3/5 compromise and or the “slave codes” (the latter of which is a distinction to my understanding not actually mentioned in the constitution, it was just “understood” those rights didn’t apply to slaves).

    I am referring to the Bill of Rights provisions. Quite a conflict having all that in the document day 1 while also allowing chattel slavery for a century and then separate but (un)equal for another century. Not a lawyer or historian so I’m not entirely familiar with how that was rationalized originally or how it came to be, other than the obvious understanding they didn’t view African slaves as human. I just get triggered any time I see someone making the “states rights” argument when it comes to slavery.
     
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    Fugitive Slave Clause
     
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