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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatoragman, May 31, 2023.

  1. Gatoragman

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    Bottom line, Disney is a business, and the more people become accepting of a man in a dress, the more you will see representation at places like Disney.

    I think that is the point of the entire thread!!!! Some people are not accepting a man dressed as a woman as the norm. Call it bigotry, call it whatever you want, I call it my right to accept the decision on how someone present themselves in public or not. This is not a religion or a race thing, this is you have made choices in your life, and I have the right to make choices in my life as to whether I accept it or not.
    WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?????
     
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  2. UFLawyer

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    You must be Northern Canadian, because you are a master at skating around the issues. Lol. Just like you have a personal preference on who you date and marry, so does everyone else have a personal choice on who they interact with. It’s called freedom. If you were honest with yourself and everyone on this board, you would agree that your failure to date and marry ugly women is no different than some of the posters here not wanting to interact with hairy godmother a/k/a Princess Bob. Both are personal preferences.
     
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  3. AzCatFan

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    You can have personal preference and freedom. But if you are discriminating based on the fact it's a man in a dress, and you wouldn't treat a woman in the dress the same way, then you are being bigoted against trans men. Just like if you treated a woman in the same dress wearing a hijab with a head covering underneath, if you treated her difference because she was Muslim, you would be bigoted based on religion. You are free to do both. I'm not stopping you.

    And the fear that your daughter would become a man by interacting with a man in drag is at least the fear being expressed. I find it laughable. People have been trying to hide trans people with the exception for laughs and entertainment, yet trans people have persisted throughout the years. It's the same way of thinking that keeping kids in the dark about homosexuality will prevent them from being gay. But people have been forced into the closet for generations, yet homosexuality persists.

    But hey, if you are scared that if you interact with Bob, your kid might suddenly turns trans, that's your right. I find that preposterous. Interacting with gay people won't turn my kids gay. Listening to rap isn't going to change the skin color of my kids from Caucasian to African American, and interacting with trans people isn't going to magically turn my kids into cross-dressers.
     
  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    How do you know that your child won’t become that of whom they hang out with?
    People often do learn behaviors and mimic from those they closely associate with.
     
  5. AzCatFan

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    Maybe they will? Maybe they won't. But plenty of people have tried to shield their kids away from homosexuals, and their kids turned out gay anyway. And transgenderism hasn't really been mainstream, yet trans people have existed throughout history.

    It's been my experience, the tighter you try to grip your kids and control them, the more things slip through your fingers. We all set our own limits, and again, I'm not going to tell anyone where to set theirs. But exposing my kids to all kinds of people in relative safety has never been something I'm scared of. And the lesson I want to teach them is it takes all kinds to make the world go round, and we shouldn't base what we think is good or bad, or what is unacceptable or unacceptable just because we do things differently. As I said before, we are all unique and weird in our own ways, and accepting other people's weirdness will hopefully lead to them accepting ours.

    It's not that I want my kids to turn out to be trans. But if they do, I will love them and accept them the same.
     
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    science is awesome, but not perfect. I would introduce those ladies to this guy, another of God’s creatures who was born a bit different, but gets by just fine. IMG_1028.jpeg
     
  7. UFLawyer

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    You are awesome. You ignored the ugly woman because of your personal preference for appearances and you think that is OK, but if Tim ignores the Hairy Princess due to his personal preference for appearances, he is a bigot. I do have to give you kudos, because your double standards means that you at least have standards.
     
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  8. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I come to realize that you wanted your kids to turn out trans.
    There is no other explanation.
     
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  9. Sohogator

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    Being gay and transgendered isn’t behavior. Anyone with multiple brain cells know this…..
     
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  10. middleoftheroadgator

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    The white grievance card. Played more than the race card these days.

    EDIT: But it is a type of race card. Is this equivalent of the Reverse Draw 4 card from UNO?
     
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  11. Sohogator

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    Very offensive. Every (good) parent wants their child to be happy in their own shin and self actualized.

    You aren’t contributing much to this discussion. I’m about to deport you again.
     
  12. UFLawyer

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    Huh? Is it a disease? A disorder? WHAT EXACTLY IS IT?
     
  13. UFLawyer

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    And you are? Are you trying to be the Don Rickles of Gator Nation?
     
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  14. middleoftheroadgator

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    You should really stop. You are purposefully being dishonest about your argument. There is a long list of laws that are attacking POC, women, gays, trans, teachers, and so on and on. You know what was meant. Playing these word games is silly and dishonest.
     
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  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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    And you were supposed to be middle of the road…seems you side with only one party.
    Maybe change your handle so we can take you seriously.
     
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  16. Sohogator

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    There are 3 classes of voters regressives, patriotic independents and patriotic democrats. I assume he plays in both of latter two. No one wants to be associated with your party of loons (nicest thing I can say about them)
     
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    Yes, I discriminate when it comes to my dating pool. Or at least I did when I was single. But each person has his/own dating standards, and we're not asking Princess Bob to date anyone. He's tasked with helping people out at a Disney store per his job. And most people have different standards when it comes to whom they date, and whom they wish to have a clerk at a Disney store.

    My standards for people who help me out at Disney are friendly, knowledgeable, helpful, and presentable. Just because I might discriminate against Bob when it comes to dating him, doesn't mean I discriminate against him when it comes to fulfilling his job duties. Fact is, I'd be happy to have Bob help me and my family at Disney.

    Different standards aren't double standards. Back in my dating days, I wouldn't date Bob, nor a 70-year woman. I would be happy to have either help me out at a Disney store.
     
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  18. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Sounds like you want everyone to adopt your standards.
    Those who do not, you call them names.
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    Those who exhibit examples of bigotry, I will call out. I ask once again, would it not be religious bigotry if Bob was a woman, wearing a hijab under the dress, and someone didn't wish to interact with her because they assumed she was a Muslim? If that answer is yes, then avoiding Bob because he is wearing a dress is bigotry against trans people.
     
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  20. Sohogator

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    Speaking for myself I would like them to be decent human beings. It’s an impossible bar for many though and they deserve to be mocked and derided.