Did Joe Biden Voluntarily Step Down From The Presidency or Was He Forced Out?

“We’re not going to give your campaign another dime” = forcing out

 

I think he was forced in the sense that his hands were tied. As close as you can get to actually forcing anything.

 

He sat right there in front of George S and said I’m the best one for the job, I’m not going anywhere unless God tells me to drop out.

Should we assume God told Biden to drop out?

No the press multiple Dems, the big money boosters told him to drop out. They forced his hand. If the Dems thought he was gonna win in never would have happened the polling data wasn’t going anywhere good fast.

This idea he did something so great and gracious is a joke. Unless he had a recent stroke and has some sudden onset cognitive decline this has been going on for sometime and he never should have run again. That would have been a noble way to go out.

Alternate reality guys.

 

I think it was quite noble considering the difficulty of reaching the pinnacle of your calling and then relinquishing the position. There are a ton of people that would not have done that including his opponent.

 

It was mos def noble.

 

The threat of the 25th Amendment and the DOJ releasing embarrassing information likely turned Biden around quickly and especially so with him having a TIA event in Las Vegas from where he had to skedaddle home instead of giving his speech.

Released by the DOJ on Monday:

DOJ Discovers Transcripts of Biden's Biographer Interviews It Previously Denied Existed (breitbart.com)

There is no telling what else the DOJ was prepared to do.

Yes, forced out is the accurate description.

 

The fact that Kamala was “not elected”, and Biden was “forced out”, are all preliminary excuses to be accumulated to claim the election is illegitimate - if Trump loses.

 

I didn’t answer the question because it all gets down to whether heavily pressured = forced.

 

The whole country wanted him gone. According to R’s he is easily the worst POTUS ever. According to D’s he’s Weekending at Bernies.

“Forced”? I mean I guess. As in, he agreed with 85% of all people to be “forced” out.

 

Is he ? I don’t think he was ever the prez. He was controlled from the beginning by Deep Blue and I think you know that Counselor.

 

We all know what they will say if Trump loses. The election is illegitimate because it was stolen. They used the bamboo fiber excuse last election so I'm curious to see what the excuse will be this year

 

It continues to be funny to me that people think of primaries as something other than a tightly controlled contest where the rules literally change election to election. There will always be a hard deadline when it comes to ballots and formal nominations at a convention where the paperwork has to be done, but pretty much anything before that is fair game, especially if the party's voters are on board. The GOP could have "forced" Trump out in 2016, but that would have pissed off too many voters and lost them the election, so they didnt.

 

Few do like his definition, but the thing with definitions is that there is no logical reason why it’s wrong. He would point to Socrates who was given a choice between apologizing for corrupting the youth or death. That Socrates chose the hemlock demonstrates there is really a choice to make.

Still, I think the bigger issue concerns the other extreme definition I gave, which is that heading a party is always contingent on the support of that party. Sure, only if Biden loses Democratic party support does he step down, but only if Trump has support of the Republican Party does he get the nomination. In this way, Trump is being “forced” to run, which is clearly a problematic result. Simply, definitions are never worth debating.

Further, even the non-semantic core issue of whether the will of the people was thwarted is also inconsequential, as the Democratic Party is a private institution that has freedom to choose its members and leaders as it sees fit. I earlier defended the Republican Party’s attempt to bribe Kari Lake from running. The Republican Party should have the right to make a deal with Lake if it wishes. Universities pay off their football coaches to leave all the time.

Chair of Arizona Republican party resigns after leak reveals alleged bribe

 

I am open to taking his word for it that God himself came down from heaven and personally asked him to step down.

That's as close to "forced" as I can think of.

Since I like my job and want to keep it, I am not inclined to question that particular employment agency.

 

Obviously they didn’t use 25th and he could have been stubborn and stayed. but agree it was intense pressure including financial. I would call it “force”.

Bottom line it was best for the country - for everyone. It became evident, especially after the debate he couldn’t be an effective leader for another 4 years. It’s frustrating he didn’t stop after his 1st term that many wanted. It would have helped the party and our country to have a better candidate. But we see now just how entrenched he was.

2 unpopular points neither party will admit:
1) if Biden was up by 20 points in the polls dem leaders wouldn’t have pushed for him to leave
2) maga besmirched Biden about his age and made constant ageist jokes well before the 2020 election. Biden won and had a mostly successful tenure as president. You may not like his policies, but he was successful and garnered global respect. Proof of that respect is rallying nato to help defend Ukraine, his efforts are actually underrated. But maga doesn’t get credit now for saying “we told you” as it’s a case of crying wolf for so long.

 

Of force. I mean of course. He was forced out by circumstances. He may have some senility, but even he could see the writing on the wall. He may have seen the finger of God writing it there. Anyway he listened to Jill too long. Finally, at long last (thank God or not), he told her to shut up about it.

 

I truly believe he thought he was the best person for the job. He did everything he could to stay in the race. But the noise was deafening and he lost the support of virtually every Party voice that matters, an at some point, it finally sunk in that even if he thought he was the best person, he was about the only one who thought so. He finally understood he had no chance of winning. And so he did the best thing for his Country and Party, he dropped out.

I think that is a form of being “forced” to drop out. And I’m happy he did.

 

Has this been confirmed? It would not surprise me if this is what happened.

 

Yes, it has been reported in the news.