DeSantis vs Newsome

but when you ban smoking in a restaurant, you don’t call it banning smoking. You just put up a “no smoking sign”. If somebody wants to smoke, they eat at the restaurant, then walk outside and smoke. And if they don’t want to walk outside they can choose to eat another restaurant. you’re losing this argument.

 

I do know where they are. Every state has these guidelines and regulations posted online. It takes time to go find them. if you want to go look, I assume you know how to use Google search

 

Actually, they are. What you want is them to be accountable to the loudest parent.

I haven't written a queer book. And yes. That is her job. That is not Desantis' job nor one he is qualified to do. It is a librarian's job and what she is hired to do based upon her background and interests.

 

Here is a list of smoking bans in the US. Yes, people often call those "indoor smoking bans" or generally "smoking bans."

List of smoking bans in the United States - Wikipedia

 

In the time to post multiple replies, you could have just linked it, since you know where it is. I googled prohibited book list in Florida and prohibited book list in Maryland. I didn't find an online list from any official source with either search. That is why I asked you to provide it.

 

do you even know what the term accountable means? LOL. In no sense is a school librarian accountable to parents.

You also don’t seem to have any idea how Florida decides what Books are in the library. Desantis has nothing to do with the decision. It’s done locally then approved by a certified media specialist…you know…an expert.

Academic Services / Review Process - Library Books).

This law was adopted by the Florida Legislature…who were elected by the parents and other voters in a system we call representative democracy.

 

If you want to play the fool, that's your business. Let me know when you decide to have a serious conversation. Until then, I'll reserve my efforts for the adults in the room.
MORE THAN 300 TITLES, INCLUDING NUMEROUS LITERARY CLASSICS, BANNED IN COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA

 

Really? So if a parent lodges a complaint about a school librarian, they literally can't be fired or in any other way disciplined, no matter what they did? Wow. I don't think that is accurate.

You were the one who brought up DeSantis in this context, not me. Here is your question, which I answered:

I answered the question you asked. If you wanted me to answer a different question, ask me a different one.

 

I’ll give you that one. That’s my bad. I was actually addressing previous posters (and Newsom) who were blaming Desantis for banning books. I should not have assumed you fall into that delusion. But the premise of my point still stands. Florida set a state standard and requires accountability and creates a statewide review process. That is a good thing.

 

But it WAS in “public school libraries,” just not necessarily “elementary school libraries.”

 

I saw that article. Does the article clarify if these books are removed at all levels or just some levels?

I don’t think I’m playing the fool, just asking you to support your claim.

 

You specifically said elementary school when asking about the excerpt you posted… is this your round about way of admitting you made that part up?

“Do you need a school board to tell you that this shouldn't be offered in elementary school public libraries?”

 

Lol dude is so tedious.

 

LMAO!

So "ban" means the public servants doing the people's will who democratically elected them, removing <.ooo1% of books from the facilities they are charged with maintaining, same being financed by the said people, and this is "bad" bc it contravenes "the Librarians!"

Hahhahaha...

Funny stuff....

Who the hell are we the tax payers to dare disagree with public employee *LIBRARIANS* about how our tax dollars are spent?!?!?

banned!!!

 

Because at some point you need to let professional people do the jobs they were hired to do. Whether that’s librarians, teachers, doctors, or lawn care specialists. In essence, stay in your lane, unless it’s some egregious violation then at worst you can have your own kid “opt out” of whatever offends you. Definitely makes more sense than allowing crazed parents to micromanage school content, including removing literary classics, based (largely) on internet quackery.

It’s kind of amusing though as I’m sure most/all of the people arguing for “parental review” in friggen school libraries, are adamantly opposed to “citizen review boards” when it comes to police departments and review of police misconduct. Conduct which may actually impact a person’s liberty.

Make that make sense.

 

Big fan of big government, apparently. What we need is more regulations to make sure those librarians are not trying to do things like select appropriate books for their libraries!

 

Obviously a library is not going to shelve everything, but in terms of these “banned” books or the ones being pulled from shelves, not sure I’ve seen a single verified instance that actually made sense to pull (not that I’m familiar with every instance or every book, just that the “lists” I’ve seen seem awfully stupid). I trust that librarians have a good sense of age appropriateness already, which is why most of these efforts are a joke.

Most of them just seem targeted at POC or LGBTQ content. When I see a familiar author or classic on one of those lists it’s pretty sickening as an American to see people so far gone they essentially want to censor or change history. Essentially, they are what we thought they were (bigots). Maybe you can argue on some of the books on LGBTQ is too early or find it creepy there are “age appropriate”children’s books attempting to explain that conceptually. But when you are pulling those books from high school it’s pretty much just bigotry coming through imo. Almost nothing should be banned from high school libraries.

 

Tax payers. We pay. We elect. We are well with in our rights to determine how our kids are taught in and through the schools we fund.

School admins answer to us, we do not answer to bureaucrats, public agents, servant, and/or employees.

Damn Leftists can never seem to get that straight.

Keep your government worship in China, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea...

 

You putting lowly public employee librarians over private Tax payers is Big Gov worship.

PS--at least give Doc Big Gov a hat tip for his one trick pony catch phrase. (,put his lame ass on ignore for a reason).

 

I didn't make anything up, I was asking a question.

Yes, nowhere do I say here that Gender Queer is offered in Florida elementary school public libraries.

Also, it was offered in Florida public school libraries. And it was removed from Florida public school libraries. I don't know if it applies to all levels of K-12, but it is among the books that have been removed from some public school libraries.