DeSantis vs. Disney

True. Though that’s a unique situation in that it’s all funded by a massive theme park and all the development it brought (and continues to bring) to the state.

In the non Magic Kingdom real world, it’s a terrible idea to have police or fire as a private enterprise, or even permitting/building codes for that matter. But in the bubble it works, as a theme park has its own unique needs.

I wonder if any of the other similar communities have their own police force or fire. I live in a CDD community that is in charge of its own roads, landscaping, gate access and water/sewer. But as one would expect the police and fire are county funded. Building permits would go through the county govt as well in my experience. I would guess those aspects falling to “the district” are unique to Disney/Reedy Creek.

 

Let’s keep to the topic. Don’t take the bait please. This thread is now about DeSantis’ gutless failure to pursue his illegal retaliation against Disney thst was defended by his political supporters here. What did @QGator2414 call this law— “political consequences” for speaking out on a subject. It was all about bullying Disney and throwing chum to the base. Right wing, government cancel culture in retaliation for speech. Shows what a coward DeSantis is.

 

Yeah. DeSantis is the one in the wrong for calling out the lies from the left. LOL!

You probably still believe the bill has to do with not saying “gay”…

 

He is perfectly within his personal rights to call out something he thinks is wrong. He is not within his rights to use the power of the state to limit someone else's free speech. And that's what he did with Disney.

 

No he did not. Disney is free to speak the way it wishes.

 

Sure. And you are free to refuse to pay your taxes. You will just enjoy that freedom in jail.

 

I am not addressing that bill. I am addressing the the Reedy Creek law.

 

Huh?

I assume you are trying to make a point that Disney having preferential tax treatment potentially taken away is the same thing as others paying their taxes without that same preferential tax treatment?

Really bad analogy!!! One people do pay their taxes legally and don’t get the preferential treatment. Two is Disney will not be treated negatively compared to its peers for speaking. They may get to play on the same field now though.

Disney can speak as they l wish. They may now get to play on the same field as everyone else. If they were going to be treated differently than every other normal corporation and forced to pay more taxes you would have a legitimate point.

 

Disney may lose its preferred treatment. Oh no…

 

And in Iran, anyone can say what they want about anything. They will just be taken to jail or executed. No doubt you can’t understand that the difference of financial sanction for speech is one of degree, but that the state action is what violates the First Amendment. Because, as you toot about “don’t say gay” reflect, you can’t grasp the idea that punishing speech you don’t agree with is wrong. But that is your value system: Not America’s

 

Dictatorial drivel.

 

No, you completely missed on the analogy. Rade might come back and explain it, but in the meantime, think . . . think really hard.

Edit: @duchen explained it pretty well.

 

Whether you consider their deal as special is irrelevant to the issue. Disney made a deal with the state of Florida in the 1960s which enticed them to expand in Florida. Both sides agreed upon this deal. It was revoked because they spoke against the governor of Florida 60 years later. This implies that the public deal was allowed to remain in place as long as the company spoke nicely of the governor. There is no way this is consistent with the intention of the first amendment. At best, the distinction you are making turns this into a bribe. See my analogy here:

DeSantis vs. Disney

 

Apparently you are incapable of understanding Disney was getting preferential treatment. And with that will be held to a higher standard. Especially when the institution was peddling the false propaganda that others were about the state that was affording the preferential treatment.

Comparing this to Iran is height of absurdity…

 

Can tell you don’t like reality.

 

Comparing an institution who is getting preferential treatment to a group following the law on the same playing field is ridiculous. This is not Disney and Universal being treated the same and now Disney being punished. It is not hard to understand.

 

And now Disney has peddled false propaganda against the state. So the state is going to look at the preferential treatment. This is not an institution being punished compared to its peers. Go lie about your boss and see what happens. There will be consequences. Disney can speak all it wants. But it may now lose some of the preferred benefits it has over other institutions. This is not Disney and Universal on the same playing field and now Disney being punished.

 

As I explained above, whether Disney was enjoying special benefits is irrelevant. Whether the “propaganda” is “false” is also irrelevant. Who says it’s false, DeSantis? There is nothing in the first amendment about speech being free unless the government determines the speech to be false. In fact, the whole point of free speech is that the government should be barred from acting as the arbiter of ultimate truth.

I think you’re analogy of lying to your boss is illustrative, as it suggests you are viewing DeSantis as Disney’s boss. He is not, anymore than Biden is your boss. Let’s change my analogy to include your main two key points of lying and special benefits:

Biden offers all citizens in the state of Texas a special tax break that is given to citizens of no other states because Texas has had it hard lately. This is wonderful for Texans, until the governor of Texas calls Biden’s border strategy “dangerous”. Well the Biden administration sees this as a lie, and thus categorizes it as false propaganda. As a result of the governor’s words, Biden then removes the special tax break, thereby leveling the playing field among all citizens of the US. Sorry, speak against the president and you lose all special privileges.

Do you think what Biden did in my example was proper?

 

Zero chance he answers that question.

 

The easier example is the special tax privileges churches receive.