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DeSantis vs. Disney

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by dynogator, Apr 13, 2022.

  1. altalias

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    It was linked in the article. I did not read the actual curriculum. I've always found City Journal reputable.
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  3. tampagtr

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    Speaking of Rufo (bear with me), tonight's episode of Pachinko, the excellent miniseries on Apple Plus, including a dramatization of the 1923 Yokohama earthquake followed by the infamous massacre, known mainly to Koreans.

    There are Rufos all over as few Nations will deal honestly with the darker aspects of their history. From Wikipedia:


    After the massacre, Navy Minister Takarabe Takeshi praised the Japanese lynch mobs for their "martial spirit," describing them as a successful result of military conscription.[5]: 114  Paper plays called kamishibai were performed for children which portrayed the slaughter with vivid, bloody illustrations. Performers would encourage children to cheer for the lynch mobs as they killed "dangerous" Koreans.[21]: 182  In 1927, an official history of Yokohama City claimed that the rumors of Korean attackers had "some basis in fact."[5]: 116  In 1996, historian J. Michael Allen remarked that the massacre is "hardly known outside Korea."[7]: 85 

    Books denying the massacre and repeating the government frame story of 1923 became constant bestsellers in the 2010s.[23] In April 2017, the Cabinet Office deleted historical evidence and acknowledgement of the massacre from their website.[24] Beginning 2017, Tokyo mayor Yuriko Koike broke decades of precedent by refusing to acknowledge the massacre or offer condolences to the descendants of survivors, saying that whether a massacre occurred is a matter of historical debate.[25] In July 2020, Koike was re-elected as mayor of Tokyo in a landslide victory.[26] In September 2020 a Japanese group held a rally in Sumida, Tokyo calling for a memorial to the massacre located in Yokoamichō Park to be demolished, saying that the massacre never happened and the memorial constituted "hate speech against our ancestors."[27
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

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    I think very few people like the direction the country is going. But why you're unhappy about it matters. I don't like the country moving towards an end to democracy.

    I mean, you advocating for executing harmless women, men, and children for crossing an arbitrary line in the sand didn't exactly portray you as an empathetic individual.
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    Oh my, DeSantis's press release is kind of hilarious. "Okay, we goofed on this one. We'll fix it later." LOL.
     
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  6. duchen

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    The goal of the Authoritarian is power. They rarely care about anyone else. Nobody can believe that DeSantis and his lackeys in the legislature hasn’t heard about the cost to taxpayers because the information was all over place. And they refused to study it independently. They just don’t care.
     
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  7. philnotfil

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    Ready, fire, aim makes for some great stories when you go out with your friends. It is a terrible way of governing.
     
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  8. swampbabe

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    I read all of that but understand that sometimes these articles link lesson plans do it from third party sources. It really is important to read the actual curriculum for accurate answers.

    I’ve found Christopher Rufo to be less than truthful and City Journal is pretty right leaning but not egregiously so.
     
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  9. swampbabe

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    I try to avoid people that are untruthful but sometimes it can’t be avoided.
     
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  10. gator95

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    So you don’t like the info and then deem it right leaning. LOL.
     
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  11. duchen

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    I just want to see the “political consequences” argument made in defense if Disney brings a First Amendment case. I can think of so many scenarios to apply it. An unsuccessful candidate for president owns a club in an area dominated by the opposing party. It is re-zoned single family residential only as a “political consequence” of opposing the party in power. An unsuccessful candidate for mayor owns a business that catches fire. The elected mayor refuses to send the fire department to put out the fire as a consequence of the opposition. A group protesting the government wants to hold a rally but is denied police protection as a “political consequence” of the message that is unpopular with those who govern.
     
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  12. vaxcardinal

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    Sure it can, just don’t come onto this site
     
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  13. Gator515151

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    How do you bitch about the wealthy not paying their fair share of taxes then give Disney a tax break nobody else has?
     
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    They don't care. They're giving DeSantis the Trump treatment. And there are legitimate concerns about what he's doing, but coming from them, it seems odd. It's like Bernie Sanders telling us we should be more careful with government spending.

    Somehow I feel like that's not what the issue is here. The issue is they don't like him, and they like Disney, especially when it comes to this issue.
     
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  15. OklahomaGator

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    Does Universal or Sea World have a similar deal?
     
  16. philnotfil

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    What tax break does Disney have that nobody else has?
     
  17. BLING

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    I could be wrong on this but don’t believe this is a “tax break” per se, which is why the retaliation leads to an INCREASE in taxes on those counties. All the stuff that was Disney financed would be shifted to a government responsibility, including the existing debt of the development district (and Desantis’ ill conceived actions could cause covenant issues on those bonds without the arrangement that was supporting them). The current setup is in a way a privatized local government, which in normal times would be almost fiscal conservative utopia.
     
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  18. vaxcardinal

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    nope, nor does Legoland
     
  19. Bazza

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    I thought the left was all about Corporations paying their fair share in taxes.

    Universal Studios Orlando pays them, Sea World pays them, LegoLand pays them, why not Disney?
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    Disney pays taxes. We already established that. Please read the thread before making claims.
     
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