DeSantis vs. Disney

I dont know about Disney, but the City of Industry is a charter city. I assume there are probably others.

 

Yes authoritarian push to have equal treatment.

You crack me up. Thanks for the laugh!

 

Maybe he feels he has to outdo Abbott in Tx who backed up semi truck traffic for days while millions in perishable goods perished. Hey look what I can do.

 

It's CLEARLY a retaliatory action, and that is obvious. It is punishment for Disney's articulation of its opposition to DeSantis' policies. Yes, Disney "brought this on themselves" by publicly disagreeing with DeSantis, and his response, which was to punish Disney for its statements, was definitely fascistic.

 

I had no clue Disney was getting preferential advantages. They probably should have stayed out of politics and misrepresenting the side that most are on. Then most of us (whether you agree with misrepresenting the bill and Disney or not) still would have had no idea they were getting preferential treatment. Now that they have created a situation where we know they are being treated unequally with advantages. They get to deal with the consequences.

 

I would make park entrance in Florida free with a California ticket purchased at 10% discount. Move all sales to California and let Florida sue me.

 

Disney's loss of this exemption would cost every family in Orlando about $2,200 in additional taxes to pay Disney's $2B in bond debt.

Big Gov Ron for the win.

Gov. DeSantis' Feud With Disney Could Push $2 Billion of Debt On Taxpayers - Inside the Magic

 

Disney has EVERY right to be political, and DeSantis has NO right to use the power of government to punish them for that.

 

You aren't pushing for equal treatment. You are pushing for political retribution for speech. You weren't commenting about how unfair this was 1 year ago, when Disney was a major employer and political donor to Republicans in the state. You aren't pushing for this for fairness purposes. You are doing it because you want to use government to extract revenge on somebody for speaking out against the government that you support. All of your attempts to obfuscate around that don't disprove your authoritarian tendencies. They just display your desire to hide them.

 

Well, if you believe in free speech.

 

He has the right to revoke something they were never entitled to in the first place.

 

U've become an ultra-lib. My understanding is that disney was promised this arrangement prior to breaking ground. it is the breaking of a promise if nothing else & cons think that is wrong

 

You do not know what you are talking about.

The "special" tax breaks are what all companies are allowed to get in FL. It is not Disney specific from 55 years ago. And Desantis already said he is not going after the corporate tax breaks Disney gets. They will still get those. He just wants to revoke their status as their own governing body, which would then burden Osceola and Orange counties with tax hikes to their residents. As someone already posted, this would cost every family in Orlando an additional $2200 in taxes. Not including now having to pay for 911, medical, fire, construction, etc, which Disney uses NO tax dollars currently to fulfill, but now FL taxpayers would have to fit the bill to pay for Disney construction, etc.

That is what you want? To burden the taxpayer?

 

That would be true before the new Pubs' fascist regimes.

 

Anyone who grew up in central Florida in the 70s and 80s generally knew Disney has been its own municipality for years. It was part of the economic development deal that enticed them to Florida in the first place, and it's the shoulder atop which virtually the entire City of Orlando was built. Without Disney, Orlando is still the cow pasture that it was when we moved there in the late 60's.

If you think its ok to take that away in a retaliatory move over a single bill then I'm going to say you're being disingenuous here.

If a Dem gov threatened to take away Hobby Lobby's incentives because they spoke out against a permissive abortion bill, you'd be clanging the bell about how wrong that was. The difference is, I would too. It's the height of petty, partisan politics. Just like when Kemp did the same crap to Delta in GA 2 years ago.

And I would think it's also a violation of Disney's right to free speech for the government to retaliate solely in response to their free expression of an opinion on legislation, when no one had a problem with this until 2 weeks ago. That's OK. I'm sure every family in Osceola/Orange Counties will gladly stroke a check for $2200 to retire Disney's $2b bond debt once they inherit it. And then pay for the cost of providing ongoing services. So much winning for everyone because Big Gov Ron got his feelings hurt. .

 

Can you not understand that the issue is retaliatory punishment for the words articulated by Disney in opposition to DeSantis' policies?

If Democrats claim that corporations don't pay their fair share and try to raise their taxes EXCLUSIVELY as a result of thinking that they don't pay their fair share, AND NOT AS A RESULT OF OPINIONS ARTICULATED BY CORPORATIONS, then they would not be undertaking a fascist abuse of power. If they were to raise taxes of companies as a result of those companies' political policy pronouncements, then that WOULD be a fascist abuse of power.

How can you NOT understand the difference?

 

It's almost like we have a constitutional provision specifically forbidding retroactively criminalizing behavior specific to a single actor. Nah, must be one of those crazy liberal ideas

 

Yup… corporations are people and money is speech … right wingers taught me this.

 

It's also a really stupid policy on its own merits, or lack thereof, but it's enacted by a partisan worldview that premises it's legitimacy on performative stupidity

 

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