DeSantis--School Vouchers For All!

The problem with your claim is the part where you claim taxes for education are a payment for your child's education. That is not true, as people without children pay those taxes too (and you don't pay additional taxes for having multiple children). It is for a functioning educational system, which has a variety of benefits to all people. Most notably, a functioning education system increases overall economic activity and lowers violence rates.

 

You don't watch enough Fox News or read enough Breitbart.

 

Government: "If you are too poor to afford private school, get a better job or get a second one."

Citizen: "I paid sales tax. I paid property tax. I paid income tax. I paid gas tax. I cannot afford to pay for private school because you took all of my money that could have paid for private school. So, why don't you give me money back, so I can pay for private school?"

Government: "Yes, it costs about $14,000 in funding per student, but that is mine now. It does not belong to you anymore. Hahaha!"

Citizen: "So, you took money from me to pay for my children to be educated, and now I have to pay for my children's education twice?"

Government: "Yes, your money that you paid me to educate your children is now my money. Being a rapist of citizens' wallets is great. I'm slightly aroused by the power I get to wield over you, but yeah you should resist rape culture and teach your children not to rape others."

 

It's tacit support of a dictatorship.

 

Yet another welfare queen republican.

 

Unbelievable.

Giving parents (the people) MORE power to choose where they individually spend their tax dollars and send their kids and with what values to raise their kids is dictatorship.

But taking the people's money, centralizing education, using education to indoctrinate kids, having public employees bargain with employers for taxpayer money without input from the taxpayer... that... that's just "social good" guys.

Ass backwards way of thinking.

 

They are accountable to the people and the education marketplace.

Guess what happens if nobody decides to go to their school?

 

If nobody decides to send their kids to private school, it's because the private school isn't good and it's the private school's problem.

If nobody wants to send their kid to a public school or a public school is yielding terrible outcomes, it's the state's fault because they're not giving them enough money. The answer is always more money.

 

Maybe the Saudi’s will fund our education system. That should solve these pesky bathroom issues.

 

Taxes pay for things. One of those is education. The benefits you are getting at a given moment might not be completely proportional to the rate you are paying at a given moment, but the point still stands. Your point brings up a good question, though. It is not a 1 for 1, but an actuary or financial analyst could figure out what should be paid out in the present based on the present value of all the past expected future cash flows you are expected to pay into the education system.

 

Again, the reduction of the benefits of education only to the education of your children, as if you receive no benefits from others being educated, is itself the problem. It isn't a matter of the benefits being proportional at a specific time. A person with no children in their entire lifetime pays exactly the same amount for education as a person with 1 child or a person with 7 children. The reason for that is that all three of those people benefit from the existence of public schools as a key component of the society.

 

Correct, so what you are saying is if I took my share out of the pot for my kids that were contributed by my tax dollars, then the kids who are still remaining in the public education pot get to benefit from the guy who has no kids. If that is the deal, then I'd be good with it. Write that check for the voucher baby!

 

The voucher isn't based on what you paid to the government for education either. In fact, you would often be taking that person who doesn't have kids' money, if you have enough children or not enough income. And that is setting aside the fact that you would then be freeloading off the benefits to public education if you didn't pay additional money for the maintenance of public schools.

 

Base it off the amount paid and write that check! There is a way to come up with an equitable number for a voucher. Whatever reform needs to be done to get the correct number do that, and then write the check. That way people aren't paying twice for their child's education if they are dissatisfied with the public education option.

 

So freeload the societal benefits of public schools.

 

I know many on here have been saying Charter schools are awful. I'm sure some are. But this study shows Charter Schools outperforming public schools.

Charter Schools Are Outperforming Traditional Public Schools: 6 Takeaways From a New Study

A new study shows that charter school students are now outpacing their peers in traditional public schools in math and reading achievement, cementing a long-term trend of positive charter school outcomes.

The study is the third in a series conducted by the Center for Research on Educational Outcomes (CREDO) at Stanford University, which has researched charter school performance since 2000. The third study, released June 6, is notable because it shows superior outcomes among charter school students while the center’s earlier studies showed charter school students performed either worse than or about the same as their peers in traditional public schools.

The 2023 study reversed that narrative and showed that charters have drastically improved, producing better reading and math scores than traditional public schools. The results are “remarkable,” said Margaret “Macke” Raymond, founder and director of CREDO.