DeSantis passes Trump in latest round of polls...

Gonna have to see the education sample before I take them seriously. Also its a year before the primaries even start, so its all mostly meaningless lol.

 

Passing illegal laws that you know are unconstitutional so you can score political points is not pandering, it is an abuse of the office. Pandering would be holding a press conference and expressing your vehement disagreement and making threats. Much like lying in a press release or on twitter isn't illegal but writing it down, signing it, and submitting it to the court is.

 

Call it what you wish, pandering or passing illegal laws to score political points is much worse than overreach. We can and should have debate about where to draw lines in terms of how far a reach government agencies have. These are mostly policy debates, and can be healthy in a democracy. Even if we eventually agree to disagree on where the line should be drawn.

But pandering/illegal laws to score points is beyond overreach. There is no justification for these actions other than to own/piss off the other side. There is no policy debate, and is unhealthy in a democracy, because it leads to retaliation. And often the retaliation moves the needle even farther in the other direction as the original action. This leads to a death spiral where eventually nobody wins.

I can live with politicians who I disagree with their policies, but understand where they are coming from. Often, I would draw the line in a much different spot. But politicians that engage in scorekeeping politics, whatever you call it, including pandering? That's a no go for me.

 

The only real polls are the ones on Facebook and Brietbart user polls. I still see Trump signs and bumperstickers everywhere, so how could he be losing? The lame stream media, including the liberal FoxNews, wants to make him look bad.

 

Gotta see where Qanon lands on Ron, he could be a servant of the lizard people child sex cabal

 

If only he would lose his gripe.

 

If you want inflation out of control, stock market tanking, and boys turning into girls, keep voting for Biden and the dems.

 

I also listed several polls in post #71. They're remarkably inconsistent ranging from an extreme of DeSantis at +20 to an extreme of Trump at +29 and by the way the last one covers a more recent period.


Edit: DeSantis does top Trump by 5% in the most recent poll.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3767275-desantis-tops-trump-in-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll/

Still predicting that whether or not he is the party's nominee Donald Trump will still end up destroying the Republican Party adding the caveat that the Republican nominee regardless of who ends up with the nomination can still win the election if one or more the following occurs, Biden is the nominee and he completely implodes cognitively; the US is involved in an unpopular foreign war; or the economy is in a recession resulting in a significant increase in the unemployment rate and/or inflation remains high during 2024.

 

Certainly, any Pub politician is going to start out in the negative w/ Dems. But some folks go the extra mile to be the turd in the punch bowl and DS fits that bill.

 

Trumpers stole all my Dem signs. Fact. No exaggeration.

 

I think one of the reasons you don't see more flags and signs and what not for Biden is folks know it will invite violence from the Maga crowd.

 

Even so, in lifetime boat parades, the score is like Trump 854 - DeSanctimonious - 0. What more to people need to know?

 

It’s just a different mindset from my own. I weigh everything on the balance and I can’t think of a single issue (from a mainstream politician) I would conclusively say it will always cause me to vote one way or the other. That’s why I think of it as a one-issue vote. Obviously you care about a great many other things but it sounds like abortion will always trump (pardon the usage) all the other issues.