DeSantis passes Trump in latest round of polls...

You voted for Trump. You are passionately supporting DeSantis. You sure do take a shine to repulsive authoritarians.

Well, shit, I might as well refer to myself as a moderate progressive. The word "moderate" apparently has no meaning. If "hard left" means "pro freedom and anti-authoritarian," you got me.

 

For some strange reason you like to portray yourself as a moderate but you are not one. If you were a moderate you would not be such a big DeSantis fan and you'd actually vote for candidates who support the things you claim to support, like public healthcare. DeSantis won't even expand Medicaid to help the people of his state. And you're a huge fan. I can only guess it's because you like politicians who do things like lie to desperate immigrants and fly them to Martha's Vineyard as pawns in a political stunt, and misuse taxpayer dollars to do it. Such a Christian thing for God Boy to do. What a phony, just like Trump.

 

Wouldn't a true moderate sometimes vote for a more progressive candidate and sometimes vote for a more conservative one depending on the context? For all your claims on issues, how many candidates have you voted for that have supported providing expanded universal healthcare or restricting guns in the last 4 cycles?

I mean, you hated Trump and you wouldn't vote for a pretty moderate Democrat who opposed him. Biden is hardly a hard lefty type. Meanwhile, you are forcefully backing a guy who isn't really a moderate against him.

Let's try this exercise: if your candidates won each time, what would health care or gun policy look like today? Would we have less people with health care and fewer gun regulations than we do today?

 

You’re already taking a lot of heat but I’d suggest burning down the house for abortion is too much. Abortion won’t be stopped by Republican Party. Freedom and democracy will though.

 

You turned on him for Ron DeSantis. The point of mentioning it is that you fell for the wannabe-authoritarian clown show once and are doing it again.

 

Biden signs gun safety bill into law

 

The polls actually seem to be all over the place with no candidate consistently in the lead. From 538.com

 

You ever get around to watching this ad?

 

Agree. Waaay too early. Biden wasn’t on the radar til South Carolina. Trump came out of nowhere too.

 

There's a fine line between artist and artisan. And the baker with a storefront should be expected to treat all customers equally. If three couples came in, one straight, one gay, one lesbian, and all asked for the same exact wedding cake saying "Congratulations Kris and Pat!" are the cakes works of art? Or are they the work of an artisan, because the cakes, while ornate and difficult to make, are identical? And why should, in a public accommodation shop, the gay and lesbian couple be treated different than the straight couple?

As for the vaccine and school closures, public health has long been a job for the government. Is it authoritarian to require shirts and shoes for service? Shouldn't we be free to walk into any store as we see fit? Well, requiring guests to wear shoes and shirts is for public health. Same reason several government agencies exist, like the FDA, which have all sorts of rules for public spaces like the bakery, restaurants, and food manufacturing facilities. Sometimes you can argue the FDA and other agencies are overreaching, and at times, I think we could agree. But they exist for a reason, and that reason isn't authoritarianism. It's public health.

Now, contrast that with Trump trying to overturn an election based on zero evidence? Or DeSantis taking away Disney's tax advantages because Disney is supporting a "woke agenda," and the Governor's agenda. What are the reasons behind the actions? Is there any real justification for what the politicians were doing and they just arguably took things too far?

Just calling out both sides isn't enough. I would suggest you need to try and understand both sides of the story as well. And if anyone has a good justification for Trump's or DeSantis' actions, I'm happy to listen and try to understand. From where I stand, there aren't any good justifications, unless you think owning da libs is justification for a politician to act like an authoritarian.

 

60 Minutes Releases Exclusive Secret Photos Of Ron DeSantis Clubbing Baby Seals With Hitler

 

The post you replied to contains a nice list of why I hate Deathsantis. Yet you just "laugh" at it and don't feel it is worth debating it and jump to the conclusion that we hate him because he won't bow to the "progressive agenda".

Reminds me of this...