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Department of Education - Mission Accomplished

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by slocala, Nov 13, 2024.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    They probably need to get those kids breeding if the idea is to replenish the low wage native labor force
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    in search of the holy grail huh?
    another great casualty of MAGA - facts...
     
  3. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

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    I am amazed you oppose this effort. Some states like minny soo dah, cally and new yawk won't pass this but States like Florida, Texas and Alabama will pass and implement all of it. The States that implement most of these items will be more successful in the long run.
     
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  4. slocala

    slocala VIP Member

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    It’s better than the holy hand grenade (shrug).

    The best route to a debate of ideas is to identify what we agree upon.
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    agreed. been saying that for a long time. try and get MAGA to agree to any source of facts is like herding cats on ice. it isn't going to happen
     
  6. slocala

    slocala VIP Member

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    Define “long run” and measurement? Who is the arbiter of baseline and improvement?

    Said differently, anyone can put up a “Mission Accomplished” banner if there are no facts, goals, or measurement on such goals.
     
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  7. slocala

    slocala VIP Member

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    One, Two, Five!

    Probably goes both ways. No one has all the facts and truth.
     
  8. PITBOSS

    PITBOSS GC Hall of Fame

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    Really good info. What about his first 2 priorities? Parents becoming much more involved with the process? See below.


    1. Respectful rights of parents to control education.
    2. Empower parents and local school boards to reward principals and teachers. Your Fired!
     
  9. citygator

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    I'd like to see how people think the Federal Government is involved in curriculum or teacher evaluations? Education is the most local social program we have in the entire country... in my opinion.
     
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  10. avgator2000

    avgator2000 All American

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    Not to be that guy but ED = Dept of Education. DoE = Dept of Energy….carry on
     
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  11. gatordavisl

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    It's generic rhetoric and will only be operationalized in red states with shitty leadership. You're seeing some of this in FL under guvner white boots. Those manifestations are obviously problematic, furthering the privatization agenda. Dems will probably have to undo gobs of crummy legislation once back in power. The fed can't impose parental control over education nationwide though, or at least I don't think it can. Depends largely on how motivated and strong the Sec of Ed is. DeVos was an empty shirt, so not too much harm done.
     
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  12. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

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    The best thing we could do for education is to ban smart phones from the student population. I don't know who thought it would be a good idea to let small children have access to pornography and ridiculous jackass videos, but it distracts the hell out of children and prevents them from learning (anything useful). However, even schools will require students to have a smart phone if they want to participate in sports. Smart phone distractions are probably the biggest issue that teachers face in the classroom. AI is probably the number 2 threat to education, as it is too easy to get AI to do your thinking for you and compose papers.

    Teachers Are Opening Up About The "Kids Can't Read" Crisis, And The Situation Is Much, Much Worse Than Any Of Us Realize

     
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  13. Emmitto

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    They are truly captives to phones.

    Parents will now come to IEP meetings and fight to the death so that they can keep them (we finally have a “no phone” policy.)

    And parents win 100% of the time.
     
  14. BLING

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    It’s not even just kids.

    Go to any sporting event or concert, any big moment happening and people are watching through their phone because their main priority isn’t the experience, it’s getting a recording to post on social media. It’s twilight zone stuff.
     
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  15. Emmitto

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    I have a SPED teacher in most of my classes. When she isn’t there and has a sub, I have to tell that sub to PUT THE PHONE AWAY almost every time. Grown ass men and women.

    And the parents will go to the end of the Earth to circumvent the policy.

    I make a digital note about phone policy violations. Every so often I run a report and contact parents when a student hits three (again.) I don’t track it but I estimate that 80% of the time the parent defends it with aggressive vigor. Everything from common world angst to Constitutional “arguments.” It’s surreal.
     
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  16. chemgator

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    What bothers me about the smart phones is that the parent has to choose between their child being an unconnected nerd or a fully-connected idiot. Socialization is a part of high school, but it is not the most important part, and it can occur without the smart phone (no one currently over the age of 50 had one in high school).

    I think the schools should:

    1) Find alternate ways to allow sports participation that do not require a smart phone. It could be as simple as sending out mass texts to the student's flip phone, or having electronic billboards in prominent places to announce news ("Football practice cancelled."). The texts could be timed to be sent in between classes, so no distraction to classwork.

    2) Ban student use of the smart phones, and confiscate them whenever a student is found with one. Force the parent to come to school to collect the phone. For repeat offenders, start disciplining them with janitorial work.

    There would still be texting possible with the flip phones, but I don't think that is as completely distracting as TikTok and all of the other idiocy.
     
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  17. tampajack1

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    I thought that ED meant erectile dysfunction.
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    so let parents, educated or not, make the decisions even though they have no training or background. we all know their angel isn't the problem so fire the teacher. brilliant. can we get that rolled over so fans can start calling the offense?
     
  19. OklahomaGator

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    My daughter teaches 5th and 6th grade classes and she has all her students place their phones in a box when they come into class.
     
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