Defensive Discussions

to be fair, when the d lineman stands like that…this is what Roberts is asking them to do. This I heard from one of the big major boosters who was allowed to attend fall camp (unlike reporters). The booster couldn’t understand what the hell the plan was with the strategy.

 

I was literally about to say same thing. Throw in Kevin Carter as a true frosh in 91 and Big Nasty William Gaines. THAT was a DLINE. Want to see and remember a thing of beauty? Call up on internet 1991 FSU at UF. 14 to 9. Watch Darren Mickell at ALL TIMES when we are on defense. We win that game cause of Darren Mickell.

 

I would rather have culpepper at 280 than Jackson at 330. Culpepper would get way more tackles even at that weight. He was incredibly quick and strong. Doesn’t mean anything anyway. Just trying to take my mind off the dismal situation we have now.

 

One of my favorites of going to Gators games over the last forty years. It was so intense start to finish. Spurrier commented that it was “electric”.

 

Best tackle in the nfl for the last decade was 285 too. Fast and strong and can play football. A 50 lb gut doesn’t always help.

 

I just watch a clip from 91’s team defense. This entire defensive staff and players should be put in a room and watch replays of Gator defenses from early 80’s to 2012. Don’t come out of the room until you can match and exceed that intensity. Just saying I really miss the Gators being feared on defense. Sad

 

I would like to recognize one of the main reasons for our great defense of 1991, Coach Jerry Red Anderson. DLine, specifically DTs. Coach Red is also why we had a strong recruiting presence in South Florida, particularly Miami. Coach Red IS The Man, and he is one of our Greatest coaches we ever had.

How good was our DLine in 91? Not playing much that year was Ellis Johnson out of Wildwood. Redshirted that year were Mark Campbell (Miami) and Henry McMillian (Folkston?, Georgia). 1991, our first Official SEC Championship. Truly The Good Ol' Days.

 

Culpepper played at 250. He wasn’t 280 until he went to Tampa Bay.

 

Upon reading the front page article about the horrible tackling and hearing that the defensive players don't trust each other, it occurred to me that if they don't trust each other, they're trying to do more than their job, which puts them out of position to make the friggin tackle. Just maybe the tacking issue will resolve itself quickly if they'll start doing their own job and not someone else's job.

It will take a lot of discipline to stay in their lanes against a good triple option team and if they don't, it's getting ugly fast. If they do, they can shut down a one dimensional running team.

 

IMO, our DL getting CONSTANTLY pushed into the secondary by opposing OL an even opposing running backs is as big a problem if not bigger. We make smallish RB's look like Derrick Henry
I don't understand how our players lose ground backwards so easily

 

They keep putting a certain safety out there every game, that should be enough to tell you these coaches are garbage. I think the scheme is trash also.

 

I think I know who you mean. But the safeties play too far off the line of scrimmage.

Biggest problem: our d-line gets pushed around.

 

Ten missed tackles by that certain safety in four games. 2 1/2 times as much as the next nearest defender. He should sit.

 

Stands up, yes but not stands around.

 

exactly. How anyone would question it is beyond me. 3 diff D coordinators, hell 4 if you add in Mullen’s last year and 4 straight years the defense has gotten worse. Our players in 2021 are vastly different than 2024 and it’s the same results. It’s scheme. Yes talent could be better but there’s other teams in the SEC with less talent on D but WAAAAAY better results.

 

And what, pray tell, is the faulty scheme?

 

they don’t have the personnel to run what they’ve attempted to run and trying to fir a square peg in a round hole. Take Grantham for instance. Our 2018-2019 D worked because we had the horses to run a hybrid 3-4/4-2-5 defense even without top notch safety play. Once Greenard and Zuniga left after 2019, there was no changes to the scheme when it became evident that we didn’t have the players to replicate that.

same with the Napier regime, Toney was trying to run a 3-4 in 2022 with Dex at DT and he’s not THAT kind of DT he was. He’s more of a 3T than a NG as in 2022 he and McClellon should have been playing DT flanked by APR/Sapp and Cox on the other side. I also believe the Safeties shouldn’t play as off/deep as they do.

You really think Corey Raymond got to UF and forgot how to coach cornerbacks????

Has it been ALLLL scheme? No, absolutely not, but to me scheme and also lack of player development is the issue.

 

And Oline. Any team we face with superior lines will likely win. Which may be all of our remaining opponents. Except fsu?