Debate: Billy Carson vs. Christian Wes Huff on Jesus, the Bible, and Christianity

At least that is something that could possibly actually happen, so I'll let that slide.

 

It’s also possible that Isaiah saw trees with hands. Who are we to disagree ? We weren’t there.

 

I don't have a religion, but here again is a fine example of a "Christian" getting mad and hurling insults instead of engaging in intelligent discussion. Jesus would be so proud to see what his believers have turned into.

 

Like I said, "can't a prove a negative", but we can disregard claims that lack evidence...

 

The Jews of Jesus’ time rejected claims or events WITH evidence. Maybe you’re a soft atheist.

 

I would certainly consider claims that had evidence ... that's why I keep asking for it, but not getting it ... closest thing I got so far was something about localized 4 mile high flooding being a thing that water could do ...

 

There’s a difference between reading literature, in search of evidence, and reading into literature so as to discount it.

 

A critical thinking person would do both ... consider what is presented as "evidence", then see if it can survive logical and scientific scrutiny. A lazy person would just accept the "evidence" and move on.

 

There is a difference between critical thinking and a readiness to criticize in order to discount. See: a refusal to consider that the Bible might incorporate literary genre the contemporary reader might find bewildering, and move on, satisfied that he’s applied proper scrutiny.

 

I thought you were of the opinion that the Bible is non-fiction ... what other literary genre are you suggesting the Bible might have incorporated?

 

I’m only trying to point out that figurative does not mean untrue.

Ex: Trump’s recent victory was considered an earthshaking event.

Will skeptical readers in 4000 AD be scouring for evidence of a massive earthquake in 2024 AD ?

 

I think referring to one off examples of "figurative language" is an understatement in the context of entire books about "great floods", "creationism", and other things that can be scrutinized by logic and science ... I think the world you are looking for is "parables".

 

A critical person--as billions before you and actually have--might also consider the abject absurdity of such marvelous complexity as life having come about by unfathomably fortuitous series of unbelievsbly convenient accidents that would have to have accidentally occurred, if we were the mere product of "given enough time, anything can happen" mindless occurrences/development...

....and then concluded, quite reasonably and rationally, that dumb luck must necessarily be ruled out... then just as reasonably conclude that we therefore must be the fruit of a [much] higher intelligence than our own...

...then reach out in prayer to communicate with their creator.

Now, i understand if one draws blanks and receive no response, that they might reject the personal god concept--that's admittedly a matter of faith--but if you're incapable of getting past the first part--of recognizing the absurdity that we came to be out of dumb luck--then all I can or care to do, is wish you more of that substance of your creation according to your religion:

More dumb luck to you, sir.

 

Lol! Again with the ridiculous notion that I'm angry.

Again, just bc my posts come laced with some spice and may even sting from time to time, doesn't mean I'm pissed.

IOW, just bc my posts piss you off, doesn't mean I'm pissed off.

I'm having fun on my end.

What pray tell are you doing on yours, that causes you to gratuitously read anger into posts, where there simply is none???

 

You are just showing utter ignorance when it comes understanding science. Just at a very basic level, nothing about Darwin's theories relies on "accidents" and "dumb luck".

It's also exceptionally ignorant to declare that just because science hasn't fully explained something, then we must jump to the most illogical conclusion available -- that there is an invisible wizard in the sky that whipped everything up from nothing by snapping his fingers ...

 

I'm having fun, too. I just assume that when someone is unable to control their emotions to the point that they start comparing other's intelligence to bugs, that I'm sensing anger. But also see that as a bit of projection by a person who is unable to state their case in an intelligent, and logical way, and therefore tries to other down to their level. I'm sorry I didn't take the bait. Better luck next time.

 

Ok Mr. Science guy... show us the evidence that everything could possibly come from nothing... and that life and intelligence could come about accidentally.

 

The creation narrative borrowed from the Babylonian epic "Enuma Elish."

 

Okay Jesus guy ... that is actually the Biblical explanation, not the scientific explanation. Hilarious that you (a) don't the know that and (b) are shitting all over it.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

Etc ... Etc ...

 

I guess this little nugget was lost on your brilliance:

God =/= nothing.