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death, taxes, and fauci will not go away

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, Dec 5, 2022.

  1. QGator2414

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    The results and day to day life. We in Florida moved on from Covid a long time ago.

    Life is Good here.

    Keep looking for metrics to tell you it is awful here. Something we are not wasting our time on. After a rough testing period (for everyone) Florida kids are crushing it and business is good. We handled this as good as anyone. The results speak for themselves.
     
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  2. HeyItsMe

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    Blatant Covid disinformation should be a bannable offense, especially when it’s not combined with any actual data. The “I think it’s true so it is” defense doesn’t fly here when the facts show otherwise. Pure blatant ignorance to get a rise out of people.
     
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  3. gatordavisl

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    Just saw the Fauci interview with Lester Holt. Great interview. In addition to being extraordinarily well-informed, he's humble and genuinely cares about Americans, even those who write/say foolish things about him.
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    The results are clear for everyone to see. Florida is the gold standard.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    The good news is he will finally be gone soon. He won’t be able to cause any more harm.
     
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  6. philnotfil

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  7. VAg8r1

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    And maybe you will stop exhibiting symptoms of the condition described below:
    The Right's Fauci Derangement Syndrome
     
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  8. rtgator

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    So, you blow off the most deadly event in US history (1.1+ million deaths) as a nothing-burger. Covid killed far more people than the Spanish Flu, the Civil War or World War II.

    Nuts.

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  9. duggers_dad

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  10. QGator2414

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    fds is real. There are people who are incapable to see the propaganda he has spewed. They are unable to realize this fool still recommends a child to take a Covid shot. They find excuse after excuse for the harm he has caused.
     
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  11. partdopy

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    lmao. What's it like to both be unable to do simple math AND be unaware of things like health and age of impacting persons?

    Spanish Flu - 650,000 deaths vs 103,208,000 population = 0.6%
    COVID - 1,090,000 deaths vs 332,403,650 population = 0.3%

    We're already at half the impact despite much higher population and population density, more travel, etc...

    The average COVID death lost 11.7 y of expected remaining life (https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2006392117) and most had serious comorbidities. It's arguable that the virus didn't cause at least some of the deaths, they died while they also had it.

    The Spanish Flu had an average age of death of 28 years old (Partner Key Messages on the 1918 Influenza Pandemic Commemoration | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC.)

    If you are unable to recognize these extremely important differences and how they mean the viruses should be handled differently then its simply not worth continuing a discussion with you, you are incapable of understanding basic facts.
     
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  12. QGator2414

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    And they will to this day find excuses. Very early on there were doctors who questioned the hysteria. They were silenced. The Great Barrington Declaration was the blue print to follow. They knew the numbers were inflated early on. They knew the risk groups. They tried to inform and practice medicine properly.

    Unfortunately we ended up with fools like fauci providing way too much terrible advice that was not based on science or medicine.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    No such thing as Covid. No virus ever isolated. No unique symptoms. No deaths which could not be attributed to other causes. And the same pertains to the so-called Spanish Flu.
     
  14. rtgator

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    I get your point: elderly people are expendable. Who cares if they lose on average 11.7 years of their lives?

    By the way, when our hospitals are overwhelmed with thousands of people dying of Covid (even if they're elderly) that jeopardizes people of all ages who cannot get critical healthcare when needed.

    What's it like to think elderly people dying is funny?
     
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  15. partdopy

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    No, not even close. That's a great attempt at a strawman though.

    My point is that the vast, vast majority of people were completely safe. Even the vast majority of elderly people. Those with serious health conditions should have taken extreme caution.

    It would have been far, far better for the economy, society in general, education and the healthy development of children for our government to throw money at programs to help people in at risk groups stay safe rather than tell everyone to be shut ins, close elementary schools, print trillions of dollars and give them away virtually without regulations and checks for eligibility, etc....

    I have elderly grandparents who are undergoing cancer treatment, so yes dangers to the elderly hit home for me on a personal level as well.

    Rather than use data, observations and the scientific method to handle the problem pur government chose to double down on very poor decision making and cause huge issues. For example it's been proven children of all ages are now educationally and socially delayed, in addition to having weaker immune systems as they weren't exposed to the world for at least a year.

    I'm sorry, but in my opinion (and my grandparents) the development, education and health of our children is more important than the small chance that a 78 year old with diabetes, hypertension and obesity might die 2 years earlier than they would have otherwise. Is it unfortunate and sad that this choice exists? Yes, but that's the nature of the world.

    To address your late edit- yes, bad things happen in life. The answer is not to cause more bad things by actions that fix nothing. Lockdowns and etc... reduced deaths by 0.2% according to studies. You're basically advocating that in order to make sure I never get in a deadly car accident I should refrain from driving forever and wear a helmet as a pedestrian to keep myself safe from drivers.

    The answer is to accept risks as part of life and take the precautions you feel are necessary for you.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Nobody was threatened by a non-existent pathogen. Everyone was affected by mass-hysteria.
     
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  18. rtgator

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    No, not even close. That's a great attempt at a strawman though.
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    OK Doomer.
     
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    Speaking of the Spanish Flu, still considered to be the gold standard for pandemics, the too-aggressive-for-today studies by Rosenau ALONE should have been sufficient to destroy belief in contagion ...

    In the Grip of a Disease