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Covid Excess Deaths give $200B Windfall to SS

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 23, 2025 at 9:40 AM.

  1. snatchmagnet

    snatchmagnet Bring On The Bacon Premium Member

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    I can show a graph of 10 people 5 and 5 of 20-30
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    Etc. How can I then show that as a republican heavy county?
     
  2. dangolegators

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    The study is really pretty simple and tells us what we already know. We know that Repubs had a lower vaccination rate than Dems. We know the unvaccinated had a higher excess death rate than the vaccinated. And the study shows that Repubs had a higher excess death rate than Dems did after the vaccines became available.
     
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  3. snatchmagnet

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    And we also know that there are a lot more pubs than dems over the age of 65
     
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  4. dangolegators

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    And we know that you have no idea what age adjusted death rate means.
     
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  5. snatchmagnet

    snatchmagnet Bring On The Bacon Premium Member

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    lol. How can I compare a republican heavy county by age adjusted death rates?
     
  6. jjgator55

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    Old people have a higher mortality rate than young people. Okay. That’s like saying people stand a greater chance of getting sunburned during the day than people who go out at night. MAGA logic is simply amazing.
     
  7. snatchmagnet

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    Are you and Joe the same poster?
     
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  8. JustaGator

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    So THAT'S why Trump is trying to encourage ANOTHER pandemic by firing the scientists and doctors in the USDA and HHS!

    If the oligarchs can't cut Social Security, they'll just have Trump mismanage another pandemic and kill a bunch of those receiving SS benefits!

    Big brain move there!

    We must have some really smart bad people advising this administration, because Trump could never think of that!
     
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  9. jjgator55

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    Of course not. If the same person could have more than one account it’s news to me, but if it were possible I’m sure posters on the right would be the ones doing it.
     
  10. GatorFanCF

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    Once again, we obviously are not masters of our domain. People elected not to get vaccine? Must be Trump’s fault.

    Obesity, age, poor exercise and diet habits, excessive smoking and drinking and other co-morbidities made people more susceptible to the virus. Again, Trump is responsible because some 68-year old guy who was 50 lbs overweight and hadn’t exercised in 10 years caught and succumbed to the virus. What happened to “my body, my choice”? Is this only for women? The nonsense of Trump’s influence on every choice in our lives is just silly. People need to grow up and accept the choices they make and stop pointing fingers at others.
     
  11. jjgator55

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    Yeah but we have Trump’s own words as to how stupidly he handled the pandemic in this country.

     
  12. dangolegators

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    Your question is nonsensical. How can you compare a Republican heavy county to what?
     
  13. snatchmagnet

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    It’s what’s in the article linked.
     
  14. dangolegators

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    Ok, so any analysis of death rates has to adjust for age, since age and death rates are highly correlated. So you compare the death rates in various age groups. You compare Repubs death rates to Dem death rates in the 75-84 age group. Maybe you have 10000 Repubs in that group and 5000 Dems and and 800 Repubs died and 300 Dems died, so 8% of the Repubs died and 6% of the Dems died. Big simplification but that's the basics of how you do it.
     
  15. snatchmagnet

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    lol. I understand how to do it, but you said it yourself. It’s nonsensical. It’s just total pubs vs total dems at the end of the day. Because that’s the basic ratio. It also appears that Florida would score much better than Ohio. Wasn’t Florida the state everyone loved to talk shit about?
     
  16. dangolegators

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    Your question was nonsensical, adjusting death rates for age isn't. It's just basic statistics.

    2 questions:
    1. Do you think unvaccinated people had a higher covid death rate than vaccinated people?
    2. Do you think Dems had a higher covid vaccination rate than Repubs?
     
  17. l_boy

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    So are you refuting the notion that more pubs died of covid on an age adjust basis than Dems? It’s a known and intuitive fact that democrats had much higher vax rates than republicans. So it is your belief that the vaccinations did nothing to prevent death, in spite of all of the evidence to the contrary?
     
  18. snatchmagnet

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    I would say yes to both. That, however, doesn’t translate to 43 percent greater chance of death. That is an absolutely insane number.
    The only way to get to that number would be to throw out all the graphs in that article and take one outlier county, probably in Ohio and use that
     
  19. snatchmagnet

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    Not at all what I said.
     
  20. l_boy

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    So you are acknowledging those facts but refuting the article, which basically articulates those facts?