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Covid-19: Treatments, Cures, and Vaccines

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by exiledgator, Apr 10, 2020.

  1. slightlyskeptic

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    That is one weird combo of drugs.
     
  2. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    This will go ignored, along with any other intelligent, informed discussion.
    Edit: I stand corrected - not entirely ignored, but brushed aside with a lack of anything resembling an intelligent response.
     
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  3. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    About 2/3rds of Israel is fully vaccinated. You are using the total number vaccinations given compared to the population. They will be over 100% vaccinated shortly…

    Israel: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps
     
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  4. jjgator55

    jjgator55 VIP Member

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    Thank you for providing a link that supports my post.
    From your link:
    98.9% > 66.67%
     
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  5. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    I provided the link to show you were wrong. Do you understand Israel has given a third and fourth booster? Do you understand that only about 2/3 of Israel is fully vaccinated but they have given enough doses to vaccinate 98.9% of the population which does not mean 98.8% of the population is fully vaccinated? You realize that just recently Israel approved the vaccine for 5-12 year olds? And that it is not approved for 0-5 making it impossible for 98.9% of the population to be fully vaccinated.

    You are welcome for providing a link showing how wrong you were. Hopefully you will fix your error.
     
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  6. l_boy

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    On the surface, but ivermectin is, well, ivermectin and all its surrounding hype. Fluvoxamine has been shown in limited studies to lessen severe outcomes, possibly other SSRIs also. I can only guess as SSRI do have somewhat of a blood thinning effect. I hadn’t heard fluticasone but I guess it being an inhaled steroid it’s efficacy is plausible.
     
  7. jjgator55

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    Where is your evidence that 98.9% of the population hasn’t been fully immunized, and that it’s only 66.67%.
     
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  8. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    how many fully vaccinated in israel - Google Search

    From one day ago.

    Now will you correct your error? Oh and it appears they are 66.2% fully vaccinated. Which is why I said “about”.
     
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  9. duchen

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    The limitations on the Vitamin D study are: a) other studies have produced inconsistent results; and b) it was not clear if the severely ill who were tested developed Vitamin D deficiencies after they got sick. And the authors say that Vitamin D should not be treated as a prophylactic.
    Study identifies link between vitamin D levels and COVID-19 severity
     
  10. duchen

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    Israel defines fully vaccinated as 3 shots, not 2. So it’s definition is different than other places, like the US CDC. And children under 5 account for the large numbers of the unvaccinated. Israel has also gone to a 4th shot, so its national health experts disagree with you.
    https://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-...-lags-behind-on-covid-vaccinations-1.10465031 Without a breakdown of the raw data according to age and number of shots, you can’t draw conclusions from the total data. And, of course, you would have to break out Astra Zeneca vaccinated to draw conclusions from the data that generalized to the US. And that data doesn’t track convalescent immunity.
     
  11. QGator2414

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    And? @jjgator55 was trying to say 98.9% have two doses. The number the world views as fully vaccinated. 66.2% have two doses.
     
  12. gatorpa

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    Interestingly enough Vit C, D and Zinc has been used for all COVID patients admitted to hospital for COVID.
     
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  13. archigator_96

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    Does anyone else see a trend with all this. Spikes in cases and hospitalizations and then it declines. Without regard to how many are vaccinated and whether mask mandates for schools are in place.

    Almost like the virus is trying it's best to stay alive and not be eradicated while changing itself to not be as deadly to their "hosts".
     
  14. jjgator55

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    Unfortunately the source you showed me doesn’t get their data from Israel, but from articles they’ve read. Having said that it appears we’re both wrong since Israel’s health ministry shows 78% fully vaccinated. This doesn’t include the booster.
     
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  15. slightlyskeptic

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    My statement was that this study is being done regarding all three together. I'm not sure if it's because they have some type of interaction with each other as a group or if it's three separate modalities of therapy used in conjunction. I get the steroids. We've been using them since day one and they make sense. I still am having a hard time understanding the particulars of ivermectin's specific effect on Covid and have absolutely no idea how an SSRI can effect a virus.
     
  16. l_boy

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    I doubt they are being studied together, as in patients taking all of them. That would be worthless. As to SSRIs, here is something that hypothesizes the reasons which I can’t begin to understand. However what I did recognize is SSRIs tend to have an anti inflammatory effect.

    Reduced Mortality Among Patients With COVID-19 Who Receive Fluoxetine and Fluvoxamine

    DEFINE_ME
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    No. You were wrong and I am right. And you are wrong again. 78% of those 12 and older are fully vaccinated.

    Hopefully you will fix your error.
     
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  18. jjgator55

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    Everyone deserves to be heard, and I’ve allowed you your say. I even showed you that we were actually both wrong.

    Having said that, what I find disturbing is not only your insistence on arguing the subject beyond the “who cares” point, but also your demand that I admit you’re right and that I correct what you perceive as my error. It shows a lack of emotional intelligence on your side. I’m not saying you’re dumb, on the contrary I find you quite intelligent. It’s just that you come across to me as lacking the ability to socially interact appropriately which can be frustrating to anyone you interact with.

    Even though I find banter healthy there are limits to my patience. Have a good evening.
     
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  19. duchen

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    My friend who is a doctor prescribes a cocktail of that for his patients. When I was exposed to someone with asymptomatic COVID, I took supplements of those (plus Eldeberry).

    Vitamins and a mineral that are known to support immune function.
     
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  20. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    Okay?

    I only kept going because you insisted that 98.9% were fully vaccinated. You continued to not believe me. You ask for proof. I gave it to you. Then you come and say it was wrong when it was right.

    I suggest going forward you do a better job of analyzing what you are reading. The fact you were not able to discern simple things like this shows why and how propaganda can be so powerful.

    And again. I hope you correct and edit your original post to be accurate.
     
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