Covid-19: Treatments, Cures, and Vaccines

The vast/vast majority of people do not need this treatment. Vaccinated or Unvaccinated. It should not matter whether one is Vaccinated or Unvaccinated. Why should the unvaccinated pay for someone to get vaccinated? We are spending a heck of a lot more on the vaccine than we are on monoclonal antibodies. Yes I am being facetious with that.

Why should we pay for treatment for the obese person or the smoker who gets Covid? Not my position. But if we are going to ask people to pay for not doing what some think is the right thing…we could keep a lot of long Covid and Covid deaths from happening if people were healthy.

And I am not opposed to these drugs either. I don’t have a problem with people taking them. There is a risk benefit and it will be different for everyone. Just like people will decide to not take care of themselves and increase their risk of severe disease (not just Covid either).

 

Please post your opinions on the other thread. This is an information thread. Thanks. Monoclonal antibodies are a treatment to prevent severe disease. It is not for you to decide who needs it or who doesn’t. It works to prevent severe disease.

 

I will continue to respond with my thoughts on these drugs in this information thread. I am sorry you don’t like the responses. Though we agree on some of it.

 

I already have, care to answer the question, there?

 

That isn’t what this thread was for. There is another thread for everyone’s thoughts. This thread is for information.

 

And I was engaged in that. We had a pharmacist ranting about ivermectin. Which can be something doctors use to treat. Some agree with it and others do not. It led to monoclonal antibodies. Thank goodness DeSantis brought them to the forefront so more people were aware of the treatment.

So sorry you don’t like my thoughts on treatments out there. I will continue to share them and discuss based on how the responses dictate.

 

Didn't your wife's dental office accept government assistance for small business affected by the pandemic? Why should taxpayers that didn't need help subsidize that?

 

Johnson & Johnson reporting strong data in support of a booster shot. Very encouraging data to a booster at 2 months, as well as almost equally good data when the booster was provided 6 months after the original shot.

As I understand the Ad26 vectored vaccine there is always some concern with boosters that the body developed antibodies against the adenovirus before it can deliver the genetic material for the spike protein production to the muscle cells, nullifying any benefit for follow up shots. I guess that was not the case?

Johnson & Johnson trots out two-dose COVID vaccine data as it builds case for boosters

 

Dr. Marty Makary: Feds' disregard of natural immunity is 'deadly' (wnd.com)

Among them is a 700,000-person study from Israel released earlier this month that found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic COVID-19 infection than those who were vaccinated.

The finding affirmed a study published in June by the Cleveland Clinic of health-care workers, who are often exposed to the virus. None of the workers who had previously tested positive for the coronavirus got reinfected. The study authors concluded that "individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination." In May, a Washington University study found that even a mild COVID infection resulted in long-lasting immunity.

"That's why it's so frustrating that the Biden administration has repeatedly argued that immunity conferred by vaccines is preferable to immunity caused by natural infection, as NIH director Francis Collins told Fox News host told Bret Baier a few weeks ago," he said.

Markary noted the current Centers for Disease Control and Prevention position on vaccinating children dismisses the benefits of natural immunity, ignoring the fact that young people are less likely to suffer severe or long-lasting symptoms from COVID-19 than adults. At the same time, young people have experienced rare heart complications from the vaccines.

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-net-daily-
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Where do you find this crap?

 

We have over 600,000 dead mostly from the red states desire to primarily employ infection-based herd immunity.

Thanks, but those of us with 3-digit IQs will take the "vaccinate everyone" path that worked for smallpox and polio over more mass death.

 

Coidgenix announces positive safety data from the Phase 1 trial of their intranasal vaccine candidate. This is a "live"-attenuated virus that promotes localized immune responses which in turn blocks replication or the SARS-CoV-2 in the nasal passages. This appears to reduce/eliminate the ability of the virus to get into the upper respiratory system.

Codagenix Announces Safety and Immunogenicity Data from Phase 1 COVID-19 Intranasal Vaccine Trial and Intent to Progress to Phase 2/3 Studies

 

Chinese Biopharmaceutical company, Clover Biopharmaceuticals, score a major win with their synthetic protien molecule, adjuvanted vaccine. In a Phase 2/3 trial in partnership with CETI, including over 30,000 participants around the world, found that it had an overall efficacy of 67% against infection, but an 79% efficacy against the Delta Variant. The overall number was reduced because 1/4 of the cases recored were infected with Mu variant and the vaccine only showed a 58% efficacy against that variant. The vaccine demonstrated 100% efficacy against severe disease and hospitalization across all strains.

They are looking to gain WHO approal and start delivering vaccine to COVAX.

Clover's COVID-19 shot tames delta in pivotal study, delivering boost to global vaccination campaign

 

FDA grants Pfizer EUA for a THIRD Shot, AKA 2nd Booster, AKA Booster.....for thos 65+, those who are immunocompromised and those who are high risk for severe disease and front line workers.

According to CDC statistics, those groups total approximately 165-185 million Americans.....or more than half of the nation's popultion and well more than half of the total eligible American adults.

FDA authorizes Pfizer's Covid-19 booster for people over 65 or at high risk

 

Pfizer launches a Phase 3 trial to study efficacy of its newer oral anti-viral drug, paired with an older drug targeted at HIV (Ritonavir) to use as prophylaxsis for people living with, or in close proximity to those infected with COVID. Phase 3 trials for this drug pair against severe disease and hospitalization, as well as mild to moderate disease are already under way.

Pfizer tests oral COVID-19 antiviral for preventing infection in people living with patients

 

Pfizer submitted the data and EUA application for using its vaccine on children 5-11. Sure there will be some significant debate over this by the CDC advisory panel as some have privately hinted that they do not see the need/value/benefit of vaccinating children that young, while other see this as a chance to break a key link in the chain of community spread from one adult to the household through the child.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/28/pfi...for-covid-19-vaccine-in-younger-children.html

 

Is that accurate?

I mean do you have a link to back up your statement

 

This is crazy in my opinion. Kids are at almost no risk from the disease. To each their own but I would not advise having kids vaccinated with a new drug for this disease when the benefits are weighed against the risks.