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Corruption in the SCOTUS

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Sohogator, Apr 6, 2023.

  1. mikemcd810

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    This is some good additional context but still not fully exonerating. He may have done the bare minimum according to norms but definitely did not fulfill the intent of disclosure forms to be transparent about potential conflicts of interest. The timing is also still very suspect.
     
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  2. gator95

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    I showed an article that there wasn't corruption with Gorsuch. It's ok to admit there wasn't.
     
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  3. gator95

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    LOL. The timing isn't suspect at all. It was a witch hunt is all.
     
  4. mikemcd810

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    It's not proof of any impropriety but selling a property 9 days after he was confirmed to someone whose law firm regularly argues cases before the court is certainly a perceived conflict of interest in the most innocent explanation. The lack of full transparency makes it worse.
     
  5. gator95

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    Who he never met. Congrats Perry Mason. You solved it!
     
  6. mikemcd810

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    You're right - we should just ask anyone accused of a crime if they did it. If they say "no" then case closed!
     
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  7. gator95

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    LOL. Go read the non political hit job and get back to me. Otherwise you are just playing politics. Not surprised.
     
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  8. wgbgator

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    "No one ever fills in that part" doesn't seem like its particularly good look for the SCOTUS.
     
  9. mikemcd810

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    I did and the difference between us is I would still think something doesn't sit right even it were a liberal justice. The facts are still concerning. Of all the people in the world the property could have been sold to it's someone whose firm brings cases before the court, and after trying to sell it for two years, it gets sold shortly after he's confirmed to the court. The purchaser thought it warranted bringing it to his firm's ethics department while Gorsuch did (maybe) the bare minimum to report the sale but unquestionably not in a transparent way.
     
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  10. tampagtr

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  11. gator95

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    LOL. No chance you are looking into this if it was a liberal justice. Hell, there never would've been a witch hunt. It's ok to admit you are playing politics. Gorsuch did what he was required. Case closed.
     
  12. mikemcd810

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    Sorry to burst your bubble but my views on ethics aren't shaped by political affiliation. I think anyone reading this can see who is being level headed and looking at the facts vs who is trying to minimize this for political reasons. You'll notice I'm not saying Gorsuch should resign or be arrested. I'm just saying the fact pattern is concerning. Its fine though - I never really expected to have a rational debate with you since you only care about "winning."
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    Roberts doesn't want an ethics clause. His wife makes too much money (over $10M) soliciting business from firms that may appear before the supremes

    Whistleblower raises alarm over John Roberts' wife making $10.3 million in legal commissions: 'I knew immediately that it was wrong' (msn.com)

    "When I found out that the spouse of the chief justice was soliciting business from law firms, I knew immediately that it was wrong,” Price told Business Insider.

    "During the time I was there, I was discouraged from ever raising the issue. And I realized that even the law firms who were Jane's clients had nowhere to go. They were being asked by the spouse of the chief justice for business worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and there was no one to complain to. Most of these firms were likely appearing or seeking to appear before the Supreme Court. It's natural that they'd do anything they felt was necessary to be competitive."

    Price in an affidavit that accompanied the complaint alleged that Jane Roberts benefited from her proximity to the chief justice.

    "She restructured her career to benefit from his [John Roberts'] position," Price wrote. "I believe that at least some of her remarkable success as a recruiter has come because of her spouse's position."
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    I would vote for her for POTUS even though I disagree with her on several positions
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    Your not taking sides lasted until the second sentence. Why claim you weren't taking sides when you clearly are?

    BTW, here are a variety of fact check ratings for "The Federalist" and Politico, as you try to claim to be even handed, I am sure that you will discount "The Federalist" after seeing their issues with bias and factual inaccuracy (which are even helpfully listed by the second source for specifics), which are far more severe than Politico's issues.

    The Federalist:

    The Federalist Media Bias Rating
    The Federalist Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federalist/

    Politico:
    Politico Media Bias Rating
    Politico Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/
     
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    Now the stuff with Roberts wife….
     
  18. gaterzfan

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    Lol, it’s funny that people would think judges, who are just lawyers, would embrace and adhere to an ethical code.
     
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  19. tampagtr

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    So pitch perfect. Doug J. Balloon is so accurate

     
  20. tampagtr

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    Great 3 tweet thread from the always insightful Quinta Jurecic