Coronavirus - International stories and thoughts

I guess my point is, how do you test the world's population? And how do you stop counterfeit bracelets. And how likely are people going to stay in when others are going out? etc.

I don't mean to crap on your idea. I like the concept, I'm just not sold on how it can be implemented and whether it would prove effective in a real world setting. Would love to be sold!

 

I can see that, but it does create a perverse incentive, where those that stayed home to help the cause get punished by not being able to work.

 

There are already people defying the stay at home orders. There is no such thing as an idiot-proof system.

 

I believe we must have easy universal access to 'real-time' testing for all... to prevent a potential relapse of infection spread once stay-at-home orders are lifted. If the WH wants us to get back to work safely, they must deliver real-time testing.

 

We don't.

 

For the “we should copy Sweden” contingent, they had 114 deaths today. Translated to US numbers that would be around 3600 deaths here at a similar daily pace, or over a million in a year.
They have currently 59 deaths per million people, Norway has 16 and Finland has 6.

so yeah, not exactly working out for them so far.

 

France reported truly grim number today. 1417 deaths. For our population that would be around 7,000, in one day.

 

They are trying that now to see if it works. Would get things moving much faster than the vaccines if it does, but it hasn't in the past, so we'll see how it goes.

 

Day 2 in ICU for Boris. Doesn’t sound grim though...

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson spends second night in intensive care


Mr Johnson is being kept in St Thomas' Hospital in London "for close monitoring", Downing Street said.

The PM is "comfortable, he's stable, he's in good spirits", said health minister Edward Argar on Wednesday.

 

Plasma treatment being tested may be coronavirus 'game changer'

 

More reporters are holding China (and not Trump--imagine that!) accountable for Coronavirus damage:

Time to put China on lockdown for its dishonesty amid coronavirus crisis

It will be interesting to see if Europe is willing to take any action against China. It seems fairly likely that Trump is willing to take action, although he tends to be too committed to unilateral action to work effectively with European leaders. If Europe is not willing to take action, then China just has to wait four years for a new president to be elected in the U.S. and try their luck again to eliminate sanctions.

 

Here's a thought....more than one responsible/culpable person/entity/country.

 

Because I don't want to read 54 pages of posts, has anyone mentioned the way we are counting deaths, versus other countries. According to Dr. Birx, anyone with Covid-19 who dies is counted as dead via the virus. Most other countries are at liberty to count underlying conditions like pneumonia, or heart failure as the cause of death. I am not in position to say which is right, but it makes a huge difference in statistics. I say we should now use only our own data from now on when making projections. World data is of little value if everyone does it different. Now open for general, nonpolitical discussion, so have at it.

 

Not until most people are tested but more so until there is a vaccine.

 

Wuhan starts re-opening their wet markets (but not the one that caused the current coronavirus). They put up a sign that says slaughter of live animals is not allowed, but in China that usually means to hide what you're doing so it doesn't get photographed. "Live animal go behind curtain, packaged meat comes out other side. See, no slaughter."

Wuhan Is Returning to Life. So Are Its Disputed Wet Markets