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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    Moderna's coronavirus vaccine can cause severe fatigue and aches and pains. Two top vaccine experts told us why they think you'll still take it.

    The side effects of Moderna's shot
    The one serious side effect that occurred after the first dose was injection site pain, reported by 2.7% of participants.

    Here are the severe side effects that people in the trial reported after the second dose:

    • Fatigue in 9.7% of participants
    • Muscle aches in 8.9%
    • Joint aches in 5.2%
    • Headache in 4.5%
    • Pain at the injection site in 4.1%
    • Redness around the injection site in 2%
    Moderna said the side effects were "generally short-lived," but didn't provide more information. It's worth noting that these are "solicited" adverse events, which means the results only include certain side effects that Moderna asked about.
     
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  3. exiledgator

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    Listening to some epidemiologist yesterday saying, he expected the Pfizer vaccine to be used in mass administration settings. Think hospitals, nursing homes, etc. And the Moderna vaccine to be used at low volume administration sites. Think CVS, family doc.

    I also understand that the Pfizer vaccine is able to come out of freezing and be stable for 2-3 days.
     
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  4. RIP

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    Sounds like side effects of getting a flu shot. Mine hurt like a beotch this and last year.
     
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    Well that would be freaking awesome.
     
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  6. buckeyegator

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    i thought death felt no pain????
     
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    you ever had a shot in a bone?!?
     
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  8. G8trGr8t

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    shingles was much worse to me. arm was sore for 3 days. wife said her second shot was worse but my first one was worse. no rhyme, no reason
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    One downside of the Moderna vaccine is that each dose contains more mRNA than the Pfizer vaccine, making it harder to manufacture. Nonetheless, Moderna says it expects to have 20 million doses of mRNA-1273 ready to ship in the US by the end of the year, and is on track to manufacture between 500 million and 1 billion doses in 2021. Pfizer expects to globally produce up to 50 million vaccine doses in 2020 and up to 1.3 billion doses in 2021.

    Read more: Moderna coronavirus vaccine trial produces best results yet



    The company believes it can produce 500 million doses to 1 billion doses annually, and has set out to make enough product “to be able to vaccinate everybody in the U.S.,” Bancel said.

    As for distribution, which poses its own challenges during a pandemic, Bancel said a partnership with the government would be “very important" under an emergency authorization from the FDA. The government, not a company, should prioritize early shipments and decide who gets the first vaccinations, he told analysts. Early on, Bancel expects “very tight supply,” while “traditional channels” of distribution would take over after some time.

    Moderna coronavirus vaccine trial produces best results yet


    PORTSMOUTH — As Moderna reports its vaccine against the COVID-19 virus is about 95% effective, Lonza Biologics in Portsmouth has ramped up its production of the vaccine in anticipation of final approval for worldwide distribution.

    "The Lonza Portsmouth site commenced production in July and began large-scale production at the end of September,” Lonza spokesman Glenn Myers said Monday.

    “We can't say how much vaccine has been produced; however, our goal is to produce drug substance from our Portsmouth manufacturing suites for 100 million doses per year,” he added.

    Lonza is also bulking up its workforce. “We have scaled up our production workforce with 70 dedicated employees with a plan to scale to 100 employees as quickly as possible," said Myers.

    Lonza ramps up Moderna COVID-19 vaccine production in Portsmouth
     
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  10. g8trjax

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    Only 75 percent of the guinea pigs need to get vaccinated, you go boys. :D
     
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    He's not alone. Many epidemiologists have been saying that for months.

    I'll be comfortable going maskless when the community spread has abated.
     
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  13. AzCatFan

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    Herd immunity isn't established until 70% of the population is immune. To reach this with a 90% effective vaccine, that means 80% of the population will have to be either previously infected or have received the vaccine. With either vaccine that will hopefully be out soon, you have between a 1 in 10 and and 1 in 20 chance of it not working for you. Meaning, you could still get the vaccine, still get sick, and still pass the disease onto others. It is a safe, precautionary measure to still social distance and wear masks until we see the new cases approach zero and the RO measure is well below 1.
     
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  14. LouisvilleGator

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    In other words: live your life in a constant, perpetual state of fear until CNN stops talking about the virus.
     
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  15. AzCatFan

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    No. Make smart, informed decisions about your health and have concern about the health of those around you. I choose to make smart and informed decisions. Too bad too many American are neither smart nor informed about a lot things.
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    Last week my doc informed me that I'm now old enough to need the shingles vaccine. . . . hurray. It's a double doser and after the first I definitely felt headaches, soreness in my arm, and tired for about 3 days.
     
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    If you don’t get the vaccine, what are the odds of getting shingles?
     
  19. gatordavisl

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    Not sure
     
  20. duchen

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    I was OK after the first one. The second one hurt more and I felt a little under the weather the next day. But, otherwise, all good.