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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    well gee, all biden has to do is tell them that, and of course they will stop, they fall in line behind him.
     
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  2. dingyibvs

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    That's my hope! With the right leadership I'm hoping these type of behavior will be curbed.
     
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  3. RIP

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    Yes, Biden organized these events. Take a lap.
     
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  4. LouisvilleGator

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    We all hope the vaccine pans out. What if it does not? How long do we cancel life? 3? 4 years? Just curious what some of your boiling points are. I was done a few months ago.
     
  5. buckeyegator

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    but i thought only trump organized super-spreader events?
     
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    He does. Biden did not organize these celebrations. Good Lord.
     
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  7. buckeyegator

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    What?3 posts above you said he did
     
  8. dingyibvs

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    Ideally, a couple months. That's what the East Asians managed with effective leadership and decisions based on science. I don't see why we can't as well.

    He was obviously being facetious....
     
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  9. RIP

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    I think your sarcasm meter is on the fritz.
     
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  10. mutz87

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    It almost doesn't matter what any of our individual boiling points are, we will not get back to anything normal unless we get this beast under control. That disruption is found in the nature of infectious disease itself. I think people struggle to grasp this basic fact.
     
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  11. buckeyegator

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    FWIW, from worldometer, almost 1.675 million tests recorded today, a new record, looks like testing is really ramping up this month, average of about 1.4 million a day.
     
  12. dangolegators

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    125k cases today too. On a Monday. That's 36k more cases than last Monday and 55k more cases than 2 Mondays ago. Just a few weeks ago you said we would never ever have more than 100k cases in a day. We are having more tests because more people are feeling sick. My son should get his result back tomorrow.
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    Tests are an endogenous measure. More spread leads to more testing, given that one of the most common reasons for tests is symptoms.
     
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  14. buckeyegator

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    So more testing is a bad thing ?
     
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  15. StrangeGator

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    30,000 people have been infected downstream from attendees at Trump rallies. Did some impromptu Biden gathering after the election get reckless with masks? It certainly wasn't at the urging of the president.

    Trump needs to get out of the way and let the states handle this. His own task force is an impediment to getting this pandemic under control.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Depends on what you mean by that sentence. If you change the nature of the testing system to push more testing, then it can be a good thing for monitoring. We didn't do that. Without such a change and without a shortage, it is a signal of more disease. Higher testing, higher positivity rate, and now higher deaths and hospitalizations all together point to exactly one potential cause: more spread.
     
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  17. dingyibvs

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    Cases have been growing at a pretty steady ~30% weekly rate, while deaths have been growing at a pretty steady ~15% weekly rate. Since we haven't discovered any new treatments, and since the rate of growth of both are pretty steady, this IMO suggests that up to about half of the increase in cases is due to ongoing testing increase.

    At this rate of growth, we should be hitting 250k daily cases by the end of the month, and about 1500 daily deaths in terms of 7-day average, which we reached 1 week before the April first wave peak.

    With that said, I think it's possible for the case count to be lower, as people will start taking more precautions and some places will start to shut down (my county is already starting to roll back some re-openings). On the other hand, I think death numbers have the potential to be higher as some hospitals will start to become overwhelmed and some medications may be in short supply.
     
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  18. dangolegators

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    No, but pretending like the only reason we are seeing more cases is because there's more testing is.
     
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    We could be at 300k per day with using the irresponsible 40 CT PCR test. I’m all for Biden going to 35 CT PCR numbers and it will give people a real sense of who actually has Covid and who is a false positive. Why we keep pounding our heads against a wall is beyond me. Fauci himself says anything over 35 CT is not a live virus. So why keep doing something that the head guy says isn’t useful? Florida for sure isn’t seeing an uptick in deaths from these rise in cases. No 15% uptick at all.

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  20. dangolegators

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    Many recent deaths are not included in your chart, so it is of no use in determining if there has been an increase or a decrease in deaths in the last couple of weeks.
     
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