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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. dangolegators

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    No, it's not true. Been through this enough times you'd think everyone would know by now.
     
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  2. FutureGatorMom

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    So what does this prove? We are woefully short helping our citizens with drug issues, period. Rehab is beyond expensive and it takes at least three trips for it to maybe work. Surprised that a pandemic might exacerbate that?
     
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  3. mutz87

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    A woman has her needs :D

    I haven't seen any numbers so I truly don't know what they look like. I take tilly's word on it since he's in the know.

    Despite so many still staying home like you and I, there are many who do go out shopping so I can imagine some brick-mortar's doing well. We will not other than for food (even then we mainly use instacart ) until there is a vaccine or until it comes to a point of not having one.
     
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  4. dangolegators

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    Per Worldometer, 69k new cases reported today. And Monday is typically a low day. Past 4 Mondays were:
    10/19: 59k
    10/12: 46k
    10/5: 41k
    9/28: 37k

    I'm seeing a pattern there.
     
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  5. tilly

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    I have never asked or seen it asked so I have been through this zero times.

    Good to know.
     
  6. AzCatFan

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    My kid can be back at school tomorrow. No test needed. We're testing to be sure.
     
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  7. studegator

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  8. G8trGr8t

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    Covid: Antibodies 'fall rapidly after infection'

    The Imperial College London team found the number of people testing positive for antibodies has fallen by 26% between June and September.

    They say immunity appears to be fading and there is a risk of catching the virus multiple times.

    More than 350,000 people in England have taken an antibody test as part of the REACT-2 study so far.

    In the first round of testing, at the end of June and the beginning of July, about 60 in 1,000 people had detectable antibodies.

    But in the latest set of tests, in September, only 44 per 1,000 people were positive.

    It suggests the number of people with antibodies fell by more than a quarter between summer and autumn.
     
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  9. BLING

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    What this also means is “herd mentality” is not going to work, and is indeed a suicide pact with no purpose.

    It also means a vaccine is likely going to be an annual or possible even bi-annual thing (depending on how the vaccine derived antibodies are able to perform), unless the virus eventually mutates itself away or to be less deadly.
     
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  10. Gatorbud

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    Maybe not on the vaccine front- they tend to induce much stronger and longer lasting immunity than natural infection- like most vaccines that are brought to market - will have a primary series and then people in the original trials usually monitored for years to watch for a reduction in antibody titers over the years to see if booster dose is needed.
     
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  11. gator95

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    It proves we shouldn't ever lockdown or have schools closed. Too much data out there that schools and lockdowns do more harm than good.
     
  12. gator95

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    Just had time to actually look at this. This hasn't been peer reviewed yet, and they only looked at March to May. Since the shutdowns around the US didn't start until late March not sure why they studied that data. Would like to see May thru September data. Here is the US Army data. Suicides up 29.5% so far this year. Shocking I know.

    Army sees sharp increase in suicide during coronavirus pandemic - CNNPolitics
     
  13. exiledgator

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    Highest 7 day average yet.

    70,987 - October 26th seven day average
    69,979 - July 25th seven day average

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  14. RIP

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    I guess Trump is technically correct about turning the corner if you consider the low of Sep 12th a corner.
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    So much winning!
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    Yes, it was posted just a few days ago. I never claimed it was peer reviewed (remember when you mocked that as a notion though when you didnt like what a peer reviewed paper said).

    Shutdowns started in mid march. Large gatherings were postponed on March 13 in Massachusetts. All schools shut on March 15. In addition, on March 15, all gatherings of over 25 and eating in restaurants were both banned.

    Massachusetts was reopening in the summer. Phase 2 near the beginning of June. First part of Phase 3 near the beginning of July.

    In terms of the army data, it is important to note that suicide rates were previously increasing. That is why you need to use something like an ARIMA model, as utilized by the analysis from the Harvard and Yale scientists that I linked. We dont know whether the change in the change is significant with just a raw number (and that is before getting into the issues of causality).
     
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  17. WESGATORS

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    I'd be curious to know what the hospitalization rates look like on a national level relative to the previous highs during the summer.

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
     
  18. ElimiGator

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    They count tests administered and the results.

    **Edit: I read the story wrong. Administered tests are not the same as reported confirmed/positive cases.
     
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  19. exiledgator

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    I'm guessing you mean rate per infection, which looks to vary between 5 and 10%. Data missing last two weeks:

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    Overall Hosp rate per 100K continues to climb:

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