Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

trump bad. that's enough.

 

Bernie will undoubtedly try to push his agenda to get done whatever he can. He won't get what he wants, so he'll take whatever Biden offers, which is expanding medicare to age 60.

 

Another Reminder to trump followers....

“It’s the most devastating stuff I’ve ever had”

South Dakota Speaker of the House battles COVID-19

 

Agree. Around here they ignored our (Florida) shutdowns back in March by diverting from closed Public places to house and beach parties.

 

Thanks, but I'm interested in the suggestion that "in reality the only thing holding them down are restrictions." Is there any support for that?

 

A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers


Results The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks


Cloth masks are basically useless according to this study.

 

I thought we were done with this

This study looks at the effectiveness of cloth masks at preventing the wearer from becoming infected. The benefit of cloth masks is that it limits the spread of airborne viruses from those who are sick. When the virus leaves a host, it is attached to a water droplet which is large enough to be stopped by a cloth mask. When the water droplet evaporates the airborne virus is too small to be stopped by a cloth mask.

My mask protects you, your mask protects me. Love your neighbor, wear a mask.

 

The study was about clothe vs medical masks in a high risk, intense hospital setting where healthcare workers were dealing directly with sick patients, not a public setting where people might be distancing and both/all/some wearing masks.

 

over 70k cases last Friday for the first time since July. Going in the wrong direction

U.S. Records 70,000 New Cases in a Day for the First Time Since July

More than 70,450 new coronavirus cases were reported in the United States on Friday, the highest figure since July 24, according to a New York Times database. More than 900 new deaths were recorded.

At least nine states set single-day case records on Friday: Wyoming, Minnesota, Wisconsin, West Virginia, North Dakota, Indiana, New Mexico, Utah and Colorado. And as of midday Saturday, Indiana and Ohio had set records.

The virus has also been surging globally: a record 415,000-plus cases on Friday, a record.

Epidemiologists warn that nearly half of the states in the U.S. are seeing surges unlike anything they experienced earlier in the pandemic. Eighteen states and Guam added more cases this week than in any other week. The nationwide seven-day average has increased by nearly 8,000 daily new cases since last Friday.

 

Serious question, why do you continue to do this? The study was conducted on healthcare workers. This proves they’re useless in medical environment, which anyone could have told you. It was also conducted in 2015 and applied to Covid, but not actually tested on Covid.

 

Cloth masks didn’t work. Data showed that. Not sure why so hard to comprehend.

 

What am I continuing to do? Point out flaws in cloth masks? Sorry the data says otherwise. You keep wearing that useless cloth mask. I’m sure it makes you feel warm and safe.

 

You continue to post links that fail to prove the point you want to make. You misrepresent information pretty much daily then tell us we’re stupid because we see through it.

 

What’s misrepresented in the study that cloth masks are useless? Not sure why you are arguing peer reviewed studies. But hey, knock yourself out sport.

 

Because you either understand diddly about the particulars of scientific measurement, or if you do, you don't show it, seeming only interested in confirming your biases. Fact is, the setting matters. Also, how masks are used matters. They didn't measure for a public setting under very different conditions. So at the very least, you're misapplying the findings.

 

He’s not going to understand this has nothing to do with Joe civilian wearing masks.
Probably also didn’t pick up on the fact that the makers of surgical masks (3m) paid for the study.

 

Right, let’s go ahead and say some BS to make it sound like cloth masks are good. I proved cloth masks don’t work. Sorry to ruin your cloth mask party.

 

Oh, so when you can’t disprove the facts go ahead and attack the source. Good effort. Keep wearing that useless mask.

 

There you go again with another straw man argument. You did this before. It's a pattern.

Anyway, you misapply the findings. They don't generalize to public settings, under very different conditions, with a different virus and who know what types of clothe masks. You'd get this this if you took the time to understand the ins and outs of scientific measurement.

And dollars to donuts, everyone of those authors would tell you the same thing.

 

It’s not a study of Covid, just flu like viruses. It’s a study done on medical professionals in a medical environment. It doesn’t prove cloth masks are useless for grocery shopping, it proves if you’re in the ICU treating an infected patient, you should wear a medical grade mask. Did we really need a peer reviewed study for that?!?! NOONE THINKS A DR SHOULD WEAR A CLOTH MASK IN THE ICU. Is that the point you’re trying to make? It’s surely not what you’ve said in multiple posts. The study does not prove the point you’ve made in multiple posts.