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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. WESGATORS

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    For what it's worth, Chad Dorrill was only taking online classes only and lived off campus. What else could his school have done differently for him? Who was he passed off on?

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  2. gator95

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  3. ncargat1

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    No one said anything about the school. I have no issue with App State. But the prevailing ignorance is that we should throw all of these kids back into packed class rooms because they won't die even if they get sick. Well.....here was a perfectly healthy, 19 year old former basketball player who was not even in packed class rooms and......he died.

    My point in posting, and the point the kids parents made by allowing the school to publicize this is that kids ARE NOT immune. Worse, if they would recognize that, and parents would stop fighting it, we probably could enable some in class learning because everyone would be behaving in a manner consistent with keep each other safe from infection, and thus reduce the probability of transmission in the classroom to both student and instructor. But our own ignorance, and frankly selfishness, is getting in the way.
     
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  4. gator95

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    Well, since the flu is more dangerous to this age group than Covid, I assume you are staunch supporter of kids staying home during flu season?
     
  5. PITBOSS

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  6. buckeyegator

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    here are some numbers to show that despite the doom and gloomers out there we are make great progress. for september, from covid 19 tracking we are averaging 810,000 tests per day, for august it was 743,000 for july it was 730,000. daily new positives for september is 39,794. for august it was 47,169, for july it was 61,542.monthly positive rate in september is 4.9%, for august it was 6.4%, for july it was 8.0%.numbers do not lie, we are winning this, and still have not seen holiday spike 3 plus weeks later, so, doom and gloomers, what say you?
     
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  7. buckeyegator

    buckeyegator Premium Member

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    so why on earth would i get a come on man for showing people that there is great progress being made? guess some are never going to believe what they see numbers wise, keep on keeping your ostrich head in the sand.
     
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  8. gator95

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    Because you called out the Coronabros. They don't like being called out. Next move is "we follow science" routine LOL. They are so hoping Sweden has an uptick.
     
  9. gatordavisl

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    Apparently it's not just me who feels that if you want to have a meaningful discussion, you would not open your message by labeling others "doom and gloomers." I'm just going to guess that your adversarial tone and unsolicited insult is what merited the C'mon man rating. To your point, it seems that increased testing will likely decrease the positivity rate. Should this not be expected? We all want to see things improve and, to borrow your expression, "win this." The recent case counts, however, reveal a 13% increase in the 14-day change. Good news is that the fatality rate shows a 17% decrease in the 14-day change. Maybe that's winning, but I'm going to hold off on the celebration until we see case/fatality/hospitalization numbers consistently near zero and schools/businesses/etc. are back to full-on opening.
     
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  10. buckeyegator

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    so what should i call the people on here who downplay every bit of good news, keep saying things are not getting better, keep following whatever some like fauci say, refuse to believe the numbers, saying states like florida are falsifying them, how about anti sunshine-pumpers.so you mean to tell me that the only reason we are averaging almost 22,000 less positives on a daily basis now than in july is because we average48,000 more tests a day,seems more tests would have more positives, more positives increases, not decreases the rate
     
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  11. philnotfil

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    Maybe don't call them anything and just present the facts?

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  12. buckeyegator

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  13. gatordavisl

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    No - If I meant that decreased case counts were only due to increased testing, I would have written that ;). Mid to late July gave us the highest Covid-19 case numbers. That began decreasing in the last week of July until recently, when it appears to have leveled off and started to increase again (as I noted with the 14-day rate change).
    Of course we are seeing fewer positives than July; you are comparing with the peak of the virus (so far). Let me ask: What do you feel the case count trend will be moving forward for the next six months? Will we see things continue to drop from the July peak or will things increase from where we currently are?
     
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  14. buckeyegator

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    well maybe, just maybe the virus is loosing steam. a drop of 22,000 or so new cases daily shows either that, or we have been able to educate people to avoid huge risk areas. i feel the count will continue to drop going forward, down to the low 30k daily new cases by end of october with more daily testing due to quick result tests making it convenient to get tested as compared to what we have now.with all the drops in new cases, deaths, and hospitalizations what makes you think a 2nd wave is coming, because fauci says so?
     
  15. PITBOSS

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    S & N D getting hit.....

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  16. buckeyegator

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    and this means what, those 2 states have a combined population of about 1.5 million, look at vermont, maine, wyoming, alaska, montana, hawaii they are not increasing, you picked 2 states that are to make your point, again we are 22,000 less new daily cases than july, 8,000 less than august, whether you like it or not they are going down.
     
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  17. PITBOSS

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    Actually it’s cases per 100k so it’s apples to apples. So yes they are seeing a spike. Not sure if they refuse recommendations from scientists and medical doctors like Dr Fauci and refuse to wear masks because trump and info wars told them not to.
     
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  18. gatordavisl

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    Thanks for responding to my question. Like you, I feel that the reduction in cases during the past two months has been a result of mitigation efforts. It's almost as if Americans finally got smart(er). I fear, though, that with the reopening of schools, case counts will increase and that we will indeed see a 2nd wave. That feeling, though, is not merely based on the suggestions of Dr. Fauci.
     
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  19. buckeyegator

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    schools in florida have been open 5 weeks or so, except for the dump on sept.1st, no daily cases over 4,000 so where is that increase?
     
  20. buckeyegator

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    all the states i mention have less than half the positives per 100,000 than the dakota's yet you choose those 2 to make your point, what about all the states dropping?