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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    how do you isolate people that need help in nursing homes, etc? Now that we have rapid tests it helps but they are limited in supply so what to do? Staff is down by 30% =/- at place where my Mom lives. No physical therapy, no trips to pain management doctor, less CNA's, less cleaning staff....until the viral load in the community is brought down there is no effective way to isolate those at risk.
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    Yep, when experts utilize their superior knowledge on a topic to come to a conclusion that you would prefer not to be true, the problem is with the experts, not with your need to be told what you want to hear and the resulting reactions to avoid cognitive dissonance.

    I know you won't do it because it is an expert telling you something that you don't want to hear, but I would suggest "The Death of Expertise: The Campaign against Established Knowledge and Why it Matters" by Tom Nichols for a lot more information on this.
     
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  3. gator95

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    Superior knowledge LOL. Dude you are funny. Want me to post more charts? Oops.
     
  4. mdgator05

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    Yes, that is the definition of "expert." I'll post the link from the dictionary, but I'm not sure that you will buy them because of their expertise in the English language.

    Definition of EXPERT

    Maybe you can find an English language truther to back you. Good luck!
     
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  5. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    Must really suck to have "your peer reviewed" models blown up. Didn't realize you'd take it this bad. Sorry, I won't pile on anymore. Take the L like a man.
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    It should be noted that you haven't raised a single methodological, empirical, or theoretical criticism of the models that I linked from peer reviewed papers written by experts in the field and peer reviewed by other experts in the field that review for the reputable scientific journal in which it appeared. Likely because you can't. Which is why your tell of being in way over your head was the basis of this post.
     
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  7. gatordavisl

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    You're right . . . who in their right mind would politicize it?

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  8. gator95

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    Yeah those charts mean nothing! Damn those pesky charts. If we were China maybe they would just disappear. Maybe move there, since they did such an outstanding job with Covid.
     
  9. mdgator05

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    Deflection to avoid the cognitive dissonance. You are a veritable smorgasbord of psychological tells right now. Is your ego really this fragile that you have to think of yourself as more knowledgeable than actual experts in the field?
     
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  10. gator95

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    Boris must urgently rethink his Covid strategy | The Spectator

    Guess these are more of "your peer reviewed" scientists. LOL. Sorry you are so mad about those little charts. I know they blow up your theories. Oh well.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    Papers are peer reviewed. Scientists aren't. This article was not peer reviewed, as The Spectator is a British tabloid, not a scientific journal. Let me know if you need any other very basic knowledge.
     
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  12. gator95

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    What does a tabloid have to do with what was written. They posted the letter. It's available from many websites. Always know you've won the argument when they try to attack the website and not the info. Oops. Rough couple of days for the Bro's. Sorry Football is back. Sorry school is open. Keep safe in the basement.
     
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  13. oragator1

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    Didn’t wanna do it but finally put 95 on ignore.
    Nothing more than trolling and name calling the last few pages.
     
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  14. gator95

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    Here is the twitter version as well, since you didn't like the other form of publication.
     
  15. mdgator05

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    I honestly don't think it could be explained with words that are any smaller. Peer review refers to papers, not scientists. The letter was not peer reviewed, which is fine because it is simply an opinion piece. But no, it is not a substitute for peer-reviewed empirical study. Yes, academics often have differing opinions. However, the minimum basis for science is to be able to distinguish opinion from analysis.
     
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  16. philnotfil

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    I would like you to be honest and post all the charts instead of just cherry picking the few that support your position.
     
  17. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Trolling? He literally posted multiple data points that a certain poster known for digging in wont acknowledge.
    I mean seriously. Trolling?
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    If you have a methodological, empirical, or theoretical concern with the empirical model that I posted, I am more than happy to discuss them. I have yet to see a single specific criticism. "Here is a datapoint that doesn't match all of the datapoints prior to proper controls" is not a serious criticism or concern.

    So yes, trolling. Supported by you, apparently.
     
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  19. gator95

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    Honest? I supplied different countries and proof. Calling it cherry picking sounds like sour grapes. Burden in on someone else to find differing charts showing that I was wrong. That is quite the take you had there. Good effort. I mean the "hey, I don't like those charts supply more" plan is pure BS.
     
  20. gatorpa

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    How were they isolated when "EVERYTHING" was shut down?

    Actually currently all staff for facilities get tested once a week, anyone who is positive is out 2 weeks. (that may vary facility to facility).