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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. philnotfil

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    He has to be in on the joke, right?
     
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  2. exiledgator

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    Seems like 3 options:
    - come out laughing at keeping it going for so long
    - come out laughing at himself for failing to grasp the post
    - continue to TheJosh

    If I had to bet, I'm going with the last option. :D
     
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  3. buckeyegator

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    well, i have had times where i lost track of a day or so, but that's a different story.
     
  4. mdgator05

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    Assuming that this isn't all an elaborate TheJosh prank at this point, which seems like a poor assumption, there is a 7-day moving average every single day. It is the average of cases on the week ending today. So on July 4, as I said, the 7-day moving average would be the average number of deaths from June 28-July 4, while the 7-day moving average for July 5 would be the average number of deaths from June 29-July 5. Understand now?
     
  5. buckeyegator

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    to much complicated math hurts my head, keep it simple.
     
  6. dangolegators

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    It is simple.
     
  7. gator95

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    I agree it’s very simple. Buckeye made a statement about JULY numbers and the other posted numbers that include June. Simple to me. Someone is trying to post BS and got called out.
     
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  8. AzCatFan

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    Yes. A 7-day rolling average means date, minus 7 days prior, averaged into 1 number. So any 7-day rolling average that is from July 1 through July 6 would include at least one day, if not multiple days from late June. Like explained earlier, the 7-day rolling average would take the average on June 29, June 30, July 1, July 2, July 3, July 4, and July 5. Seven full days, that include dates in both June and July.

    It's not that difficult if you break it out and remember a rolling average takes a look at all averages from the date rolling back to the number. For example, a 30-day rolling average from yesterday, Sep 1, would include almost all of August. The number would be reporting for rolling 30-day 9/1, but 29/30 of the data would be from August!
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    There was no math in that post...
     
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  10. buckeyegator

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    got 3 pages of discussion from 1 post, watch out chip kelly, here we come...
     
  11. gator95

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    I understand what a 7 day average is. Buckeye said July deaths. Never once brought up June. The other poster tried to use June numbers to make his point. Case closed. He was wrong.
     
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  12. philnotfil

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    No, the poster used Buckeye's numbers to show Buckeye was wrong. Another poster tried to play gotcha by using a different dataset, and the original poster used the provided dataset to show that the other dataset also contradicted Buckeye's claims.
     
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  13. AzCatFan

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    7 day rolling average for the first week of July will contain some June data in it. Why does this seem so difficult to understand? June numbers were brought up because they are included in the 7-day rolling averages for numbers posted in July.
     
  14. dangolegators

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    I just went back and read it all. You clearly don't understand it. Your post #17338 is laughable. You said "So you used a 3 day sample in July to a 6 day sample in August. 7 days isn't 3. Good effort though. Most non partisan people will see thru the BS." You clearly don't, or didn't until it was explained to you, understand what a 7 day average is.
     
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  15. gator95

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    Let’s see if this makes sense. I tell you about How many deaths there was in 2019 and in doing so include some of 2018 as well. It makes no sense to do that. No one brought up June.
     
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  16. gator95

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    You don’t understand at all. I guess the delusion is spreading. Look, if you want to listen to someone who blatantly used numbers from another month than go ahead. He was lying and got called out and sounds like he has others that believe that garbage as well.
     
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  17. RIP

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    There are 8 days in a real week!
     
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  18. buckeyegator

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    ask the beatles.
     
  19. dangolegators

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    I'd have a lot more respect for you if you'd just admit you were confused. We all get confused sometimes. He was clearly talking about 7 day moving averages and you came back with some nonsense about a 3 day sample and a 6 day sample.
     
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  20. AzCatFan

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    Let's try it this way. If we are using a 7-day rolling average for the numbers that will be reported on 9/2, after the day is over, how many days in this number will be from September? How many will be from August? The correct answer is 2 from Sept and 5 from August. Your argument is, but it's a Sept number, how can Aug be included conveniently forgets the 7-day rolling part of the metric.

    If we are using a 7-day rolling average for July 5, there will be 2 days from June included in this metric. Therefore, including June numbers in the argument is valid. Now, if we're not using rolling averages, you may have argument. But it's been stated over and over and over again that we're using rolling averages. And a definition of what that incurs.

    To try one last time, if we look at 30-day rolling averages, and choose the date of yesterday, 9/1, how many days in the rolling average will be from Aug and how many from Sep?
     
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