Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Nope. You should try better numbers. Week of July 4th the death total was 4,366. High number in August was 8/1 with 7,152. My math isn't so good but that's not close to double. Keep up the BS. Like I said, some people will believe your drivel.

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

 

Deaths don't lag 4-6 weeks. They typically lag 2-4 weeks. The cases hit peak in mid-July and deaths hit peak at the end of July and beginning of August.

 

CDC's numbers are listed earlier by about a week compared to world-o-meter's data. Deaths in that data still doubled from the week of 6/27 to 7/25 in that data, showing a spike.

United States Coronavirus: 6,275,689 Cases and 189,384 Deaths - Worldometer

 

June? How far are we moving the goalposts. Just say my bad and move on. Stop digging a hole.

 

I posted the data that had the bottom in early July. You posted numbers that had it a whole week earlier and showed the peak hitting a week earlier too and still showed a doubling. Yes, drastically different. Regardless, the death numbers doubled. As I said. Let me know when you can acknowledge that the death numbers doubled as part of the summer surge.

 

well, since people like you said we were going to see a huge upturn in deaths that did not happen you should admit you were wrong about how many deaths would happen and agrere that we can treat the serious much better now than erarlier on, thats all i ask.

 

Stop. You said doubled from July to August. Now you are talking June. You were called out and don't have the maturity to acknowledge it. Go back and read what you responded to. Keep making up crap, it seems to be a pattern with you.

 

I did not. Seriously, reading is fundamental. I will post it again for you. Try to read it this time. It is only one sentence, so I hope you can get through it.

Buckeye then started in on July vs. August, which was not what I said given that the peak started in July and stretched into early August.

Can you admit that the weekly death numbers doubled during the summer surge (a failure to do so would prove that the maturity accusation is really a confession on your part)?

 

I'm happy the upturn in deaths didn't follow suit to the number cases. I was optimistic that since we know more about the virus now than in March through May, hopefully, the death percentage totals would drop. This has been the case, thankfully.

But still doesn't mean we all shouldn't take the threat seriously. Especially with still about 1,000 people dying a day from COVID, which again, would make it the third leading cause of death in the US behind heart disease and cancer. Since those two aren't communicable, wearing a mask and/or social distancing aren't going to drop the number of cancer or heart cases. They will help mitigate the spread of COVID.

 

Early July doesn't mean June. One is the 6th month of the year and the other is the 7th month of the year. Just helping you out. You seem to get your months confused. At no time did deaths from July double into August. I provided the data that proved that. Oops.

 

Using a rolling, 7-day average of dates of the first week of July would include dates from late June. July 5 minus 7 days gives us June 29. And by using 7-day rolling averages, which in this case is the best metric since weekend deaths tend to be under-reported and Tuesday sees a spike in death numbers, the numbers from late June are in play.

 

you are missing the point, which is, in the entire month of july, the daily number of deaths averaged 816. in the entire month of august the daily number of deaths averaged 976.for the entire moth of june the daily average was 652. nowhere, from june to july to august do the daily number of deaths, except over weekends when reporting is low,do deaths double on a daily basis, they have gone up about 50% from june until now, not doubled or higher.

 

World-o-meter's data put it in Early July. That was the data I used, which I already pointed out. The CDC data is shifted one week earlier. That is the whole change. But your inability to admit that deaths doubled with the case surge, which is also shifted a week earlier in CDC data, says all we already knew about your maturity level.

 

7-day moving average from July 4-6 to July 31-August 5th more than doubled as I already demonstrated. 7-day moving averages are important to control for weekly variation. The data is here:

United States Coronavirus: 6,280,929 Cases and 189,506 Deaths - Worldometer

The basic math is earlier in the thread.

 

No I didn't say there wasn't a surge, what I said was they deaths didn't double. And I was correct. You were wrong. Again.

 

you need to lose these 3 and 7 day moving averages and look at monthly totals. for the moth of june 18,898 deaths. for july 25283 deaths. for august 30252 deaths.so doubling the around 19,000 dfeaths in june, with 1 less day i might add would mean about 38,000 for august, i do not see those numbers. again, people were saying a huge spike in deaths that did not happen.

 

i can cherry pick the 3 or 7 worst days and compare them to the 3 or 7 best days, and guess what, they look really bad, even if the were not even in the same month.

 

Apparently, 7,550 isn't more than 2x 3,723 (to use your data) or (to use my data) 1,177 isn't more than double 521. I mean, math would say it is, but apparently math is wrong...

 

Which is why I actually did the math for the lowest part of the peak and the highest part of the trough. But deaths doubled.

 

and guess what, 976 is not twice 652, or my math is wrong, just admit a 3 or 7 day, cherry picked sample is wrong.