Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Did CA cases rise during the shut down, or was there a valley, following by a rise when things started to open again? CA was hit hard early, and peaked around mid-April. New cases and deaths started to fall, so the state started to reopen in May. Fast forward two months, and cases are starting to rise again.

You can't say CA shut down hard and don't have the cases under control without mentioning the fact that CA has been reopened for two months. It's disingenuous. The shut down was actually effective at flattening the curve, and it's only after a few weeks of reopening that the problems are surfacing again.

A good question is why can other countries effectively keep the spread slow while reopening, and the US, including CA cannot? You can try and blame state leaders, but politically, Newsome has little in common with the Governors of FL, TX, and AZ, all of which are experiencing similar problems with a resurgence of the virus.

The problem then likely lies elsewhere. Likely a combination of too many people not taking the virus seriously enough, not wearing masks a few weeks ago, congregating in large groups during summer holidays like Memorial Day and 4th of July, still a lack of quick tests with quick turnaround times, and a poor contact tracing system that allows too many cracks in the attempt to notify people who have come in contact with someone who tested positive. But that's just my opinion.

 

Thanks captain obvious.

 

I know just recently they have asked that. CDC has failed any many fronts with this virus. They are very slow to process and slow the info. Didn’t the White House just ask for all info to be reported directly to the task force?
I could be wrong as I briefly read about it either today or yesterday

 

Opinion | Failure in the Virtual Classroom
Long list of what’s going on.

I can see why it’s having a hard time. School districts had to try and come up with a plan in a very small time period.

 

Well it obviously wasn't obvious to you. Here's what you originally said:

"california shut down hard for 3 months and still is blowing up."

 

so again you refuse to look at every single action he did way back in Jan.

let me ask you, if Biden was in charge and was clearly not viewing this virus as a threat since he didn’t even want to ban travel, how much worse would it have been?

MSM was pushing for over a month the virus was no threat. Dems pushes for parades and parties in NYC.

you can’t both yell at Trump for banning travel to attempt something from slowing it down and then later say he didn’t do enough.

you can’t tell Trump he has no state control to than later say he should have mandated for federal control.

About the dumbest thing Trump did was the whole mask thing. Other than that, there is not a single person in the US that could have done better.
Oh and the US would have been much better off if dumb shit governors didn’t kill off bunch of people in nursing homes.

 

didn’t realize I had to explain to some people that California opened at one point. My bad. Thought you were smart enough to know that. Won’t make that mistake again.

 

Beyond for lies on that list (such as travel banned from China; the Chinese were banned), you left out the outright lies. @GatorGuyDallas posted a great timeline upthread. And, btw: the major steps taken in the EU and East Asia? You don’t see them.

 

When you speak in such absolutes and dictate to everyone what they’re supposed to think, your words will be nit picked. Maybe if you were just a wee bit nicer and at least pretended to care that other people have opinions too, some would let little things like that slide. When you at least attempt a sincere discussion, people don’t tend to hold others quite as accountable for their literal words.

 

And you also didn't realize that California didn't shut down hard for 3 months. Now you do, so that's a good thing. You learned something.

 

Ah, you are talking about the thing that schools did to finish out the year.

That is different from virtual education not being effective. I don't know what the numbers are like these days, but 5-8 years ago, if Florida Virtual School was a district, it would be in the top three in the state based on EOC scores.

 

Biden would have followed the Pandemic Playbook written by the CDC, started under the W. Bush administration, and finished during Obama's term. Most of what Trump did were half-assed efforts of closing the barn door after the horses were long, long gone. Take the China travel ban, for example. It restricted Chinese nationals from coming into the US, but there were still several flights a day originating from China landing in the US on a daily basis, and plenty of other travellers originating from China and landing in the US. There were also several flights from Europe, including passengers from Italy, which was the cause of the COVID-19 outbreak in NY.

As the saying goes, figures don't lie, but liars figure. And this country's COVID figures are pathetic. Maybe you don't want to blame Trump, but I was always taught all glory and all blame ends at the President's desk. It's part of the weight of the job.

 

Listened to the experts. Look at military bases in Italy and South Korea for an example of people who did it right and the commanding officers there certainly didn't have the expertise or the resources available to POTUS. They started acting in Feb.

I even Googled the article for you. If you are as open minded as you claim read the article and explain to me why these Generals saved their troops and why POTUS didn't evenbtry to do the same for the USA

'Protective bubbles': How 2 Army generals stopped the spread of coronavirus among their soldiers

 

Sure it has nothing to do with someone being on the other side of the political spectrum...

 

It is possible to respectfully disagree. You should try it sometime, it’ll work wonders for your image!

 

He was being his typical condescending self so I replied in turn.

 

LOL.. several weeks of warning. More like one.

 

Trump could cure cancer.. like literally be the one who discovers the cure and they'd say he took too long to do it or spent too much. They will never give Trump credit for anything. Been posting here for years and they've yet to do it for one single thing. In their eyes, he's not the duly elected president. In their eyes, he stole it from Hillary. So they'll never give him credit for anything. If he had shut everything down in February and kept deaths below 100 in the United States, they would have moved on to something else.

 

Trump's "cure" for cancer would be just stop testing for it. No more tests, no more positive results, no more cancer! And the worst part? The Trump lapdogs would eat the whole thing up gleefully.

Trump's a con man. Been one his entire life. How else do you inherit a multi million dollar business, end up declaring bankruptcy multiple times, and still be considered a successful businessman?

 

Some good developments in the fight against covid. For those who can't read it due to the WaPo paywall:

1. Development of monoclonal antibodies.
2. Rapid, low-cost saliva tests are coming.
3. Masks work.
4. Confirmation that airborne spread is happening will lead to better preventative measures regarding air ventilation and air filtration.
5. Some of us may have some immunity due to prior exposure to common-cold coronaviruses
6. Vaccine trials seem to be working.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...about-covid-19-here-are-six-reasons-optimism/