Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

And most with those issues know it. So why risk it?

Until we have a proven safe vaccine and/or herd immunity, just dont risk it.

 

Can't stop some some from spreading fear. Oh my god, someone died! Do people not know that 7,500 people die every day?

 

Herd immunity may be very hard considering the studies that show that antibodies are gone in a few months and people getting sick a second time.

 

You would think these same people would've been campaigning for kids to say home because of the flu season that kills 5 times as many kids as Covid. I'm sure I can find some old posts of people complaining about that, right?...

 

I mean, 5 times as many kids die of the Flu, should we not send kids to school during flu season? Just asking since you are so concerned about Covid.

 

Teachers, school staff, family members.

They're people too. With much higher risk of permanent disability or death from COVID.

School age kids are virus distribution machines. Anyone who has had kids or worked in school settings knows this.

 

They can wear a mask and social distance. My sister in law is a teacher and is excited to back in a room with kids. She's 54, fairly healthy but will wear a mask and keep her distance from the kids. She isn't worried at all about returning to school. Those teachers that are concerned can either remote teach or take a sabbatical. Can't keep kids home forever. That will create many more problems long term(suicide, abuse, depression) than Coronavirus will.

 

Your anecdotal stories are so inspiring, one teacher feels good about it so the rest should just shut up and deal with it. Gotcha! My plan all along was to shut schools down “forever” back to drawing board for me!

 

Masks aren't perfect. Even surgical ones, as thousands of medical professionals have been infected with COVID-19. And cloth masks will be even less effective when you're dealing with 20-30 kids, indoors, for 7+ hours a day.

There's risk in everything we do. 7 kids is not a lot, but again, these metrics are over the summer with no kids in school, and don't include high school aged kids. So if we open up schools, how many K-8 kids should we expect to die because of it? 250? 500? 1,000? How many is an acceptable number to you?

And how many teachers and staff dying is acceptable too? Let's not forget parents and guardians who live with the kids. Got an acceptable casualty rate for this group?

The risk is too high. Especially since it can be mitigated by utilizing distance learning. We mitigate risk daily by putting on seatbelts or wearing sunscreen. Until the numbers are at CDC guidelines that say school is safe to open, we should mitigate the risk by keeping schools closed.

 

It's funny to me that the party that values life doesn't care about the extra people dying from covid.

 

What's an acceptable number of kids that die from the flu each year? Covid is less deadly to kids than the flu. When are people going to look at the data? Teachers won't be in close contact with students to the degree that a health professional is to a patient. That's two different things completely.

What's an acceptable number of kids who suffer abuse, depression or suicide from being isolated? You must weight everything.

U.S. Pediatricians Call For In-Person School This Fall

This says to me go back to school.

 

Well the WH is releasing memes about Fauci, so that should tell you where we are. Not big enough to fire the man.
Why politics suck.

 

The only thing it did was give us time to get our house in order. As one example: clearly we have improved our testing capacity in the past several months, though this explosion in cases is straining even that increased capacity (people waiting in long lines and waiting days for results again).

Here’s the thing though, if you have all this extra testing capacity, see a huge surge in cases, and then do nothing about managing the outbreaks - what are you really doing? The point of the information is to react to it and manage outbreaks. After “re-opening”, There was never much effort put in to containment, which is a real travesty. This failure is putting us back where we were before the shutdown, or perhaps worse.

 

I am guessing you don't actually know the meaning of anecdotal.
Google is your friend.

 

Didn't read the original statement close enough. Corrected it.

 

With liberals and progressives, it's never about personality responsibility or accountability. Everybody else must acquiesce and pony up, or else we're a bunch of uncaring jerks. They'll make every excuse for the person who's own actions have put themselves into a predicament.

 

kids have been at home and not exposed for the most part, that will change when they go back, so we don’t know what numbers we will see. They will be lower than adults for sure, but when all is said and done, I would have thought conservatives learned the first time around that comparing this to the flu is a risky bet. At a minimum wait for when they are back and the numbers don’t rise to proclaim their relative safety.
But again even if the deaths among kids stay extremely low and it is less deadly than the flu for them (which we clearly all hope for), the problem is in the spread. They will not only infect staff, but bring it home too. So one kid bringing it to a class can impact 20 or more families. It’s a dangerous gamble.
If the argument is “we can’t wait for a vaccine and we have to get back to living”, the question becomes “how long until we get one?”. Because holding out a few months is a very different conversation than a few years.

 

Sure. Which begs another question. How much damage are we doing to our immune systems by keeping everyone sheltered in place? There are hundreds of other bugs that are going to become larger issues, because of our weakened immune systems.