Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

It appears more young people are getting and historically the mortality rate for young people is better than 1%, couple that with more antibody testing the mortality rate should drop lower.

 

The fact that you refer to their online instruction as a zoom class leads me to believe you have no experience with top tier education programs.
It's ok, they are pretty competitive.

 

So much winning here. Just a bunch of asymptomatic folks running around in those countries and very few sick people. It isn’t testing, contact tracing and quarantines of those on contact in those countries. One day, maybe some will figure out that their leaders aren’t as malignantly evil as the folks who have implemented policies in this country to allow exponential growth of this virus. For the last 2 months, we have again seen the right wing positions shift as the facts shift and mocking of those of us who were critical of the “we have to live with it” approach. And, again, as facts get worse the arguments just shift.

 

Thanks for explaining it to me. Now I feel better. When my son is in college soon, I will feel better knowing that Harvard online classes are way better than Zoom classes...

You really think they are the same as in person? If you think that’s worth the same amount as in person than you must be easily satisfied.

 

Herd immunity might be difficult.

 

I don't the CDC ever said this although they probably alluded to it based on the following:

1. They came out with the 0.4% symptomatic infection fatality rate (0.26% if assuming all cases). At the time of that release, there was about 100,000 deaths. Dividing 100,000 by 0.0026 equates to about 38 million which is greater than 10%.
2. They claimed recently that we were at least during the early stages catching 1 in 10 cases. This equates to 25-30 million.

However, I have my doubts for the above 2. I have been tracking the seroprevelance data and outside of NY, I haven't seen any state report 10% or higher and most are around 5%. Even Florida is around 4%. I have no doubt that the 1 in 10 cases was accurate back in April but with increased testing, we have improved the percentage of cases we are catching.

 

On June 19th, 17 days ago, we had over 33,000 new cases reported. Which is when the spike in new cases really caught fire. As of now, we have only 214 deaths for the day. Working out to be a less than one percent death rate among confirmed cases or if we can believe the CDC, it’s really less than a 0.10% death rate. Which means my chances of death are about 0.001%.

 

My apologies if somebody already posted this, but this administration continues to baffle with its abject stupidity when it comes to immigration policy.


You want to chase off immigrant students attending Harvard, other Ivies, the California schools, etc.? Are you kidding me?

 

The mortality rate in Florida for June was 1.1%. 1070 deaths out of 96271 reported cases. How much has changed since June? If we continue at June's 1% mortality rate, expect to see a pretty big jump in deaths in July.

 

I must have missed where 214 people died of lightning strikes today. Hmm.

 

So, up until the end of June, including time periods where the death rate was obviously higher, if you lived in Florida, you had less than a 0.005% chance of dying from Covid-19 or about 1 in 20,000 chance. I was mocked yesterday for talking about lightning strikes. If you live in Florida, you had a higher probability of being struck by lightning during that same time period.

 

comparing deaths to being stuck seems odd. Also, I think your number for chance of being struck is over one's lifetime even though you say "during that same time period". My source sez 1 in 3,000 over your lifetime.

 

The highest number of people struck by lightning in the last 25 years (not killed, but struck) was 518 in 1995. Your analogy sucks. You need a new one.

 

no better way to help housing stability and consumption worries (thye are in the group,that’s out spending mimey), and university budgets...then to send all these people home.

awesome idea. More winning from the worst president in modern history.

 

There is nothing baffling about this. This is chum for their anti foreigner base. As all support for them expires, they are trying to cause as much suffering as they can.

 

It's just so galling. It goes against what Republicans used to believe. These are the people they want staying here and becoming citizens. They are the "good ones." They're the "merit-based immigrants." My god. It's so, so dumb.

 

The quote from one of his supporters that was affected by him negatively sums it up "He isn't hurting the right people!"

 

Poaching the world's smart & motivated is about the only comparative advantage we have. I informally debated a Chinese economist about why I thought China would surpass us economically. She convinced me (using figures) that due to the smartest most entrepreneurial minds flowing out of China on net that that would not happen any time soon. Granted this was during a job interview - so, maybe she was playing on my patriotism - & I did make her an offer which she refused for a better one also in the US.

 

https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/covid19/FINAL 7.6.20 presentation.pdf

Some interesting numbers in here. Roughly 82k+ under 34 that are Covid19+ and 28 have died for a death rate of .00034, which could be substantially lower since we know not all people who are Covid-19+ are documented.

 

If I were them I'd go to pretty much any European country instead.