Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Right Mr Trump, and if we just stopped testing and reporting deaths all together they’d be down 100%. Now that would be a positive! I know it’s your SOP to disagree with everything I say, but my post wasn’t an opinion. It was a statement of fact. Reporting will not be accurate this weekend. Celebrate your incomplete data all you want, but it’s pointless. Georgia shut down most of their testing sites this weekends for the holiday. If Tuesday is down 90% I’ll gladly eat crow, but at the same time I promise I won’t gloat or panic when we set records in every category, which is all but guaranteed to happen.

 

That’s when the argument is lost boys and girls. When you bring out the trump accusations against someone who didn’t vote for trump in 2016 and won’t vote for him in 2020. For 2 weeks deaths are down 90%. Not just today and yesterday. It’s not “because of a holiday weekend”.

You will have to apologize for gloating about numbers going up for the last 2 weeks in Florida then.

 

Bullshit.

610 deaths on July 3rd. Do the math.

 

You may not have voted for him, didn’t accuse you of that, but you sure sound like him. Find a post of mine gloating about the numbers in Florida, please.

 

That's a completely unbalanced interpretation of my comment. For the umpteenth time you're putting words in someone's mouth. Stop trying to pick a fight.

My above question was rhetorical. Of course increased deaths would be bad. But if next week we're at 80% of our peak, you could still claim "that's a positive!", even tho it is devastating news in context.

You are exhausting.

 

Blue collar workers are in much greater danger. It’s true in many ways and Covid is just another example.

The hospitalizations are following cases at a less steep angle up, but up they go now matter how much folks want to think they won’t. I’m hoping more governors follow Abbot’s mask requirement.

 

To visualize why it's stupid to argue the peak to trough ratio is meaningful, look at this chart ...

Clearly, there is a problem with reporting on weekends, which means very low numbers for Saturday and Sunday, and Monday/Tuesday get a bump.

We have poster taking the highest high, comparing it to the lowest recent low, and with a straight face, claiming that is the true daily reduction.

Put a 7 day moving average through this chart if you want something closer to reality. I'm not arguing that death are not declining, and that's great, but claiming "90% down" is just silly.

 

That chart looks more like around 50% down if we look at the trend, rather than peak vs trough.

But that was as of July 1. With the recent spikes, and the fact it can take many people 2-4 weeks to die, it’s hard to see it not go the other way with the explosion in cases. Maybe it won’t “go exponential” if the age still skews younger, but as the virus spreads it’ll be harder to keep it isolated away from at risk demographics.

 

More like running to post any increase in numbers and call out DeSantis/Trump. Very quick to jump in with those numbers.

 

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

So on April 18th the US had 16,300 deaths which was a Saturday. So this July 4th we had somewhere between 270-650 deaths depending on which site you use. So yeah. Deaths are way down. Any way you slice it. Move on to something else.

 

Did I miss discussion on mutation to spike that is making virus much more contagious?

 

Wrong again. Like I said SOP for you, but I live in Georgia, I don’t bother getting involved in the Desantis talk because I don’t pay close enough attention to the details. I’ve said repeatedly that the DeSantis/Cuomo debate is pointless and both sides have done plenty of wrong. I also don’t post any numbers because I work all day, by the time I’d have a chance to post them they’ve already been posted. I come here to read the numbers and catch up because it’s posted here by several people in a consolidated spot. Like I said, find actual posts of mine, not inaccurate, broad, sweeping generalizations. I’ll wait patiently. Thanks!

 

Link?

 

That was the weekly figure for that week...

 

LOL ... yeah ... I just saw that and was coming to post it ... weekly data compared to daily data ... even better.

 

It is, but most of us feel we need to focus on the car careening down the hill with no apparent brakes.

 

No. The CDC may be catching up from days it was lagging. That is why they themselves say the state reporting is more accurate.

 

But the Saturdays keep getting lower and the 7 day averages keep getting lower. 10 weeks now. Comparing Saturday to Saturday makes sense now that we understand how weekends are reported.