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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. 96Gatorcise

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    Treating the players differently just for the sake of playing football makes them employees and not students.
     
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  2. gator95

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    they are already treated differently. I didn’t get free meals, free tutoring and free room and board when I went to UF. Not sure what your point is.
     
  3. G8trGr8t

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    Are you familiar with FSU OL Boselli encounter with covid? The virus doesn't care if you are an athlete. It might not kill you but it can and does mess up your health for an extended period. Travel team sounds like excellent opportunities for clusters. Hope you and yours stay safe. Covid might not impact your son, but it could very well hurt you and possibly kill someone you love.
     
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  4. LLCoolJ94

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    Summary: There's risk.

    Wonderful since we all agree on this. Ultimately, the discussion on the risk must reach an endpoint. Continuing to parse the data leads us only farther into the woods. So, what solutions do you have to present?
     
  5. LLCoolJ94

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    So, would you agree that a solution that allows those at minimal risk to return to work and interact, while keeping those like you isolated for safety is at least a good starting point?
     
  6. LLCoolJ94

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    I'm going to preface this by saying I could be wrong. I am no expert on the economics of an UAA.

    Still, I don't think just getting back to normal is the main factor driving the conversation about football. Instead, I think the economics surrounding football are a major driving force.

    Consider the spring sports. I am fairly certain that football is the only sport for many schools that generates a profit. Football money provides the economics to allow the other sorts to exist. Without it, I am not certain we will see those other sports this year.

    Additionally, football drives the economy of the local town. Let us remember Coach Willie Tagart. By a wide margin, my favorite SOW coach of all time. The loss in revenue from game day factored into his dismissal from SOW. There were many local businesses hurting because of the absence of folks from games. It may seem trivial, but a number of businesses depend on that money in the fall for the remainder of the year.
     
  7. OklahomaGator

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    There was an article in the Athletic I believe that said there were only 25-28 schools where their athletic department could survive a year without football.
     
  8. gator95

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    Yes familiar with Boselli. It’s very similar to a severe flu for young adults, just not as lethal. I’m a healthy 47 year old so I’m not worried about getting Covid-19. My odds are significantly higher for cancer as that runs in my family.

    Saw my mom today at her nursing home. They are still locked down and I’m very happy that I can’t see her except thru a window. DeSantis did a smart thing by making that mandate and I’m thankful that my mom is safe in a facility that has had no positive Covid-19 cases at this point.
     
  9. spike718

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    I didn’t read it but did it happen to mention if the schools would have the money to pay for the hundreds of men’s and women’s scholarships in 2020-2021 without sports- football really -or would their students on athletic scholarships get dumped by the universities and be on their own? Would most of these student athletes get sent home and not only not play sports but be dropped as students altogether due to financial issues and not enough money to cover their scholarships?

    curious what would happen.
     
  10. mutz87

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    I wrote positively about my own employer trying to do exactly that. However, given that there are many situations where this wouldn't be possible, things can get complicated. They are for my employer. I am privy to the internal considerations in many respects because I'm part of the decision-making body. This isn't only about work per se, but of any situation/event that brings (large numbers of) people together, i.e. sporting events, religious services, weddings/parties, parades, etc...since close proximity of people makes it easier for the virus to spread, which is still occurring by the tens of thousands a day.

    The reality is that without a vaxx and without better therapies, the risk of unnecessary illness and death is still extremely high because the potential for things to spike again, possibly getting much worse, is still there. But it's a potential defined by uncertainty.
     
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  11. channingcrowderhungry

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    Andrew Boselli got it from his dad Tony, who also spread in to his wife and other brother. Tony was hospitalized for a while. All young, healthy and athletic.
     
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  12. gator95

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    not sure why people are giving anecdotal cases. I get it. Some young people will get sick. They also get sick from the flu. It happens. Young healthy people have countless other things to worry about before being concerned with Coronavirus.
     
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  13. channingcrowderhungry

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    Andrew Boselli has quotes that will tell you the exact opposite. But you already admitted if I link them you won't bother reading. So enjoy your bubble, I guess.
     
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  14. duchen

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    And his father, Tony. Tony was hospitalized with shortness of breath and was almost ventilated
     
  15. citygator

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    Just verifying that the plan still isn’t to stop the spread but to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Obviously we want to protect the vulnerable and minimize spread but the expectation that we can keep people from getting this for a year or so until a vaccine is developed seems unlikely. Seems inevitable that everyone will battle this sooner or later.
     
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  16. PITBOSS

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    the flu?! What is it with trump followers and well it’s just the flu?! 100000 dead (at least) and it’s meh - people get the flu or meh, people die in the world.

    don’t worry, looks like these young men will play a game for our entertainment. Enjoy!
     
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  17. duchen

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    I posted upthread about younger people suffering strokes and other consequences. So, the broad picture is not enough and a specific example is not enough.
     
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  18. duchen

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    It isn’t the flu. Other than that the immune system produces fevers, congestion, and other common distress because that is how the immune system works. COVID 19 is a Coronavirus, not an influenza virus. The Corona virus has a spike that attaches to lower respiratory cells. So it is a pneumonia by structure. A flu virus is not innately a pneumonia by structure. Pneumonia associated with flu is usually a secondary infection. Often bacterial.
     
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  19. gator95

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    You’re right. The flu is more deadly to people under 24. I should’ve been more specific. Coronavirus is nothing compared to the flu for people under 24. My bad.

    And for the record I’m no Trump follower. Not everyone who wants to get back to some semblance of normalcy isn’t some Trump lover. That’s an asinine statement
     
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  20. 96Gatorcise

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    Just another anecdotal story. An acquaintance of mine who is a Tampa firefighter, posted a story to FB about his LT who contracted the virus in April. Before he was training for an Ironman, now he has only 78% lung function and can barely walk a mile.
     
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