Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

What's nonsense? The fact it's true? I know it's a tough pill to swallow. But facts are facts.

 

Obesity is one of the issues tied to morbidity if you contract this virus, and linemen are in the trenches going face to face with each other and in tight quarters with other lineman - which surely increases their risk relative to the other athletes on the field. A lot of offensive lineman in particular don’t have great cardio health.

Not sure how this “obese 20 year old” risk measures against risk for 80 year olds, but surely in the world of athletics they would have quite a bit more risk of contracting the virus than a tennis player or baseball player - at least in terms of what they are doing on the field. I would assume their risk isn’t going up a terrifying 10% like those other age groups, but I don’t think this article implies that. But what if it bumps their risk from .1% to .2%? Is that relevant? What if it’s from .1% to 1%? I don’t think merely discussing it is “fear porn”. It’s a legit issue for football to consider. Unfortunately they are having to delve into the unknown a bit if they want to start the game up.

 

cite your sources, please. I want to see your math.

 

When literally 1 out of a million people under 24 regardless of weight/preexisting condition die from Covid-19 then it really doesn't matter. The rest is garbage. Like I said, 20 times more likely to die from the flu, and better odds of being struck by lightning. But keep selling fear.

 

The facts are you don't know what you're talking about, Doc. Considering the virus is respiratory, it's not much of a stretch to think obese folks are more adversely affected; in fact, everything we're learned thus far has affirmed as much.

 

Wow, got a Doc out of you. That sounds insulting.
It is a stretch though. That's the point. Their risks being heavy are already there. Nothing to do with Covid-19. But keep on being doom and gloom. You are good at it...

 

Stop bloviating and show your math.

 

true. Inverse correlation between obesity and age when it comes to covid-19 hospitalizations (p=0.0002)

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31024-2/fulltext

 

Here is PA's numbers. Mind you, PA has 12.8 million people living there. And you can go to the CDC website for more state info.

 

Odd. Georgia has confirmed cases going up. Did this guy just twist or selectively use the data that proved his point?

 

Solid info; I was just thinking I'd love to pick Brad Culpepper's brain right now, as he's been pretty outspoken about the dangers of size for a long time now... now it's compounded.

 

Inadequate and incomplete support for your position.

The blended fatality rate is 0.03% for 20 somethings. Obviously higher for the obese. So putting obese people in close proximity to one another for 3 hours (not counting practice) comes at a risk.

51 out of 328,000,000 Americans are killed by lightning a year. Although not comparable to covid fatality rates, the lightning fatality rate is 1.5e7 or 0.15 per million.

A simpler comparison can be made from the CDC stats. 112 people under the age of 24 have died from covid-19 in the USA. Only one person in the country has died from lightning in 2020 (Male 32 in SC).

 

I didn't say killed. I said struck by lightning. Read what I said before commenting. And 20 somethings isn't what i quoted. Under 24 is different than 20 somethings. Didn't read the rest after you messed up those 2 things.

 

A ha!

Man up and support your position. I'll help. Answer the following questions:

a) How many people under 24 are struck by lightning in the USA per anum, per 100,000?
b) What is the annualized covid deaths for people under 24 with a BMI > 40, per 100,000?

Then compare them and report back. Or just admit that you're just flinging santorum.

 

Not only that, but we're not just talking about mortality; some are suffering permanent lung damage and reduced capacity after fighting this bug... those are legitimate concerns for a kid who has (hopefully) another 50+ years to deal with the repercussions of exposure.

 

Interesting discussion. This week's surveillance report for North Carolina showed that the largest number of hospital admissions for Covlid-like symptoms is the 25-49 year old group. That group accounts for 44% of all cases in N Carolina while, luckily only accounts for 4% of the deaths. However, if more and more people from this age group are being admitted to the hospitals, and I can only speculate since the data is not broken down this way, but more and more "severe cases" are affecting younger people. While they are not dying, I wonder how many will have to live with compromised heart, lung, kidney and/or liver function due to this infection. I would like to see more data on that, it seems to be the under reported impact of this disease so far.

 

Dude, just admit you were wrong and moved on. I know you wasted your time looking up deaths from lightning strikes. Take the L. It's ok. You win some you lose some. You look them up. You've wasted enough of my time.

 

That's a sad retreat. Make up a fact, cherry pick, move the goalposts and claim victory. Doesn't that make you just a poser?

Bless your heart. Not admitting you're wrong doesn't make you look strong, it makes you look weak and untrustworthy.

 

Here is the post. Good try. Oops...